Ribeyre Gymnasium Investigation Review 11-23-21

The Ribeyre Gymnasium was only one year old when it was used for a tragic purpose. In 1925 an F-5 tornado swept through three states, killing hundreds of people. To date, it is still considered to be the worst tornado in US history.

The town of New Harmony was spared, but the nearby town of Griffin, Indiana, wasn’t so fortunate. The tornado completely demolished the town, only leaving one building untouched. New Harmony stepped into action, bringing the dead and dying to town.

The injured were attended to by local doctors inside the gymnasium. The dead were put in the basement, turning it into a temporary morgue. The building has been haunted ever since.

Over the years, many people have experienced the haunting. Children who used the gymnasium for gym class often saw people sitting in the bleachers that vanished moments later. They heard noises coming from empty rooms and often experienced the sensation of being watched.

A local woman who hosts yoga classes there often hears the sounds of children giggling and racing across the stage. Others have seen children roaming around the building. A man who came to repair the broken bell in the clock tower would see them racing up and down the bleachers. He would sometimes bring his ten year-old son, who would sit on the court rolling a basketball into the shadows, only to have the ball roll back to him.

During our previous investigations there, we’ve connected with many people who linger around the gym. Some of them are from the tornado tragedy, but many others are from the gymnasium’s long history, and perhaps from the land itself.

For this investigation, we divided into three groups. I took the lead in the gymnasium, Jason Nelson was the lead in the Annex Building, and Traci Hoehn held court in the basement.

I’ve always had good responses with my Spirit Box at the gymnasium, but this time would be different. A Spirit Box is a modified radio that scans rapidly through the channels. Ghosts are able to vocalize through the white noise. We often hear intelligent, full-sentence responses to our questions, but not on this night. We went around and let everyone ask a few questions, but the box stubbornly remained silent.

We weren’t going to be daunted. Sometimes the ghosts don’t like the flashing, blinking technology, so we moved onto a lower tech method: dowsing rods. Dowsing rods have been used for centuries for a variety of purposes. Water Witchers use them to find underground water, while others have used them for divination. We’ve found them to be highly successful.

When asking questions, we have two rules: don’t ask them if they want us to leave and don’t ask how they died. We also want to be respectful of them, treating them the same way we would if we could see them. Here are some of the responses:

• They don’t dislike the bell that rings every half hour
• There was a little boy on and off with us throughout the night
• He had a sister
• He was happy and didn’t want to go anywhere
• The ghosts missed the basketball games and dances
• They said they know someone in the room. When asked to point the rods at that person, they pointed to me. Apparently, I made an impression during the previous investigations.
• They don’t like the renovations. This makes sense if they liked the basketball games, since they removed the hoops and bleachers during the renovations.
• They like the weddings and receptions that are now held there.
• They didn’t play in the school band.
• They were there when “A League of their Own” was filmed.

Second Group

• There was a man with us
• He didn’t work there and wasn’t married
• The boy was there. He was between the age of 10 and 15. He liked the children in the group. (Two pre-teens attended the investigation).
• There was a little girl there too.
• Later, a woman joined the group. She was between fifteen and twenty.  She was married. She had children, but wouldn’t talk about them.

While we were sitting there, I caught a very strong whiff of what smelled like Juicy Fruit gum. I asked if anyone else smelled it and one other person did. And then it was gone.

We sent groups of two or three up to one of the attic rooms that was once the locker room. They would use a pendulum and got a lot of information. Several reported talking to the little boy. One said he had little brothers.

Third Group

The third group had just been in the basement. One woman was so overwhelmed by the energy, she ended up coming upstairs. I never tell the current group what the last group discovered. It’s always interesting when they get the same results.

• The little boy wasn’t there any longer. He was up in one of the attics with a breakout group.
• They know the names of people in the group. When asked to point to Emily, the rods pointed to Emily. Sandy was holding the rods and didn’t know who Emily was, which made it even more interesting. When asked to point them towards me, they complied.
• We were talking to a female, maybe the same one who was there for the last group.
• She is happy being there, but doesn’t have a lot of friends there.
• She doesn’t have any siblings there with her.
• She gets to leave on occasion. She sometimes visits the families of the loved ones who died during the tornado.
• She enjoys our company.
• She is an adult, correlating with what the last group discovered.
• She has children, but none of them are there.
• They celebrate holidays there, which makes sense because the gym is used for seasonal festivals.
• They liked it when the building was used by the school as a gym.

The bell started ringing. Even though it was nine o’clock, it chimed eleven times.

• The woman wasn’t married. (This was interesting information because she told them she had children. Depending on the era, women with children born out of wedlock were treated differently).
• The woman went to school in New Harmony.
• The woman didn’t have any pets. She doesn’t like the color pink. She doesn’t like Christmas, but she does like Halloween.

It was almost time to end the investigation when the strangest thing of the night happened. The gym was dimly lit, but the doorway to the kitchen was brightly lit. Several people saw a man walk into the kitchen. Shortly afterwards, we heard someone whistling. We all just assumed it was someone from one of the other groups, but something about it didn’t sit right with me. I got up to go look and the kitchen was empty.

The only other door in the kitchen led to the basement. As I stood there, the group started up the stairs. They hadn’t seen anyone come down and hadn’t heard the whistling. Our mysterious whistler had vanished!

Basement

Traci led a group in the basement of the gymnasium, which would prove to be the hotspot of the night. Traci did the Estes Method for her groups in the basement. She connected noise cancelling headphones directly to the Spirit Box and blindfolded herself. The group would ask questions to the ghosts in the basement, but Traci couldn’t hear the questions. She would only hear what came through the Spirit Box and would say the responses aloud. Sometimes the questions and responses correlate. Other times, Traci goes into almost a trance state where she begins to see images in her mind, as well as hearing the responses.

First Group

Q: Can you tell us your name?

T: Two, Three, Me.

Q: What about you?

Q: Are you a boy? Are you a girl?

Q: How many are here with us?

T: No. On it!

Q: On what?

T: Dang it!

Q: Did you help build this gymnasium?

Q: What is your name?

T: Over

Q: How long have you been here?

T: Feels like it. What? I’m right here!

Q: How old are you?

T: No. You can see me. Where you stand.

Q: Where are you standing?

T: I see. Stick around.

Q: How many of us are down here? Can you see us?

T: yes

Q: Where are you?

T: Why?

Q: We’d like to see you.

T: gun. Three one.

Q: Did you own a gun?

T: In here

Q: Are you a hunter?

T: reality

Q: Can you do something to let us know you’re here?

T: In the room

Q: What room?

T: No

Q: Do you play here?

T: The inner

Q: do you have any friends here?

T: There are four now

Q: Are they all male?

T: Right

Q: Are you the tallest of the four?

T: Bad

Q: Are you from New Harmony?

T: The front door

Q: What about the front door?

T: We’re opening

Q: You’re opening the door?

T: In the theater

Q: Which theater?

T: I know that

Q: What do you know?

T: (as a side note, at 7:45, tap me on the knee) She wanted them to let her know.

T: No (This made everyone laugh)

T: Run

Q: Why do we need to run?

T: You’re right there

Q: Where you married

T: I don’t know you

Q: I’m Sandy. I’m from Massachusetts. I’m here visiting Joni.

T: make up something

T: I drowned. Bodies.

Q: Where are the bodies?

T: letter. Uh hu. Right there. Now. I feel. Cold.

Q: Is there anything we can do to help you?

T: Remember

T: I matter

Q: Yes, you do

T: In the tree

Q: What’s in the tree?

Q: do you want to tell us your story to insure your story stays alive

T: You know it. There. Oh no. I feel that.

Q: What do you feel?

T: Can’t beat them.

T: Hey. I’ll keep it.

Q: What will you keep?

T: I don’t want it. Stay away from me.

Q: Are there still four of you?

T: Well, thank you!

Q; You’re welcome, even though I don’t know what I’m thanking you for

T: They’re laughing

T: The light

Traci took off the blindfold and headphones. Ben Adams had been walking around with an SLS camera and gave them a demonstration of how it works. It uses Xbox technology, which maps the room and picks up on ghosts, displaying them on the screen as stick figures. Ben said he got something. When they were talking about a child, he picked up on a small figure.

Traci said there was a man who wasn’t happy they were down there.

Second Group

Traci explained the Estes Method and then got started with the second session.

Q: Is there anyone here with us?

T: Alex

Q: Hello, Alex. Are you from New Harmony?

T: Stop it!

T: Here

Q: Are you a little boy?

Q: Are you going to show yourself?

T: No

T: My name’s Gordon

Q: Hello, Gordon. Are you an old man?

T: Hey

Q: Hey! Is this Gordon? Where did you go to school?

T: We’re faithful. Exactly!

Q: How many of you are here with us, Gordon?

Q: Are you making those noises?

T: Behind you

Q: What are your favorite pies for Thanksgiving?

T: Is that you?

Q: It’s Sandy

T: please. No.

T: Quiet. It’s going fast. Father Rapp.

Q: What’s going fast?

T: Good show!

Q: Are we entertaining you?

Q: Can you walk through the green dots?

T: East then. I will not go.

T: I heard.

Q: What did you hear?

Q: Did you like plays?

T: One. That’s all.

Q: What does one mean?

T: Why?

Q: You said one. I was just wondering what you meant.

T: Forget it

T: Don’t know. Go again. (groups were switching out). It’s going to rain.

Q: Do you like it when it rains?

T: Get up.

Q: Are you telling us to get up?

T: A little.

T: My name.

Q: Can you tell me your name?

T: Help me. It was.

Q: How can we help you?

T: Don’t.

T: Coming. And then what?

Q: Does anyone have any questions?

T: Yup. I’m American. Ground.

Q: Do you know where your family is?

T: Ed

Q: Is Ed related to you?

T: Move

Q: How can we help you? We want to help you.

T: Oh yeah. Nothing.

Q: Do you like it when people come to visit you?

T: Fire. There was just a scream. Run!

T: It’s awful. Well. You were.

Q: You were what?

T: There. Um ha

Q: We’re so sorry it was awful.

T: Hi. Can’t go. I was looking.

Q: What were you looking for?

T: Do WHAT?

Q: Were you looking for family?

T: Okay. Yellow.

Q: Is that your favorite color?

T: Man. Get a hold of it!

Q: Is this someone new?

T: It’s me!

Q: Gordon? Alex? Who’s here now?

Traci took off the blindfold and headphones. She said one of them was sarcastic and he was talking over a female voice that was trying to come through. She said towards the beginning, one of them told them to “fuck off.” There was a child in the group, so she didn’t say it aloud at the time.  She felt there was a grumpy one down there.

Sandy had been running the SLS camera and informed the group that there were stick figures floating around above the group for most of the session.

Several guests remarked that it felt very heavy there, very sad.

Third Group

Traci explained the Estes Method to her third group and then they got started with the session. Donna Tilly had her Flir Thermal Imaging Camera and she let someone from the group use it while she used the SLS camera.

Donna saw people on the floor on the SLS and showed the group. Then they disappeared.

Q: What’s your name? Where are you from? Do you live here?

T: There. I am!

Q: Where’s there?

T: In the back

Q: In the back of the basement?

T: Do you see me?

Q: I don’t see you. Can you come closer?

Q: Are you alone here?

T: I did it

Q: What did you do?

Q: Are you male? Are you female?

T: Going down

Q: Going down where?

Q: Do you stay down here?

T: Hey!

Q: Can you walk through the light grid?

Q: How old are you?

Q: Do you have friends here? Family?

T: Don’t do it

Q: Don’t do WHAT?

Q: Do you like answering our questions?

T: What?!

Q: Do you recognize anyone? Where are you at?

T: Later.

T: In the storm

Q: What happened in the storm?

T: You know.

Q: Tornado?

Q: Do you like it down here?

Q: Did you come down here after the storm?

T: yeah. There. A long time. So sad.

Q: Did someone come here with you?

T: Where were we? My favorite.

Q: Your favorite sibling?

Q: Do you miss the school being here? What do you want to talk about?

T: I do.

Q: Were you married.

T: Once

Q: Did you have kids?

T: Long time.

Q: How long were you married?

T: Help me

Q: What can we do?

Q: Do you stay here?

T: Indeed. Over there.

Q: Can you come over here?

T: yes. Everything’s coming together!

Q: What can we do for you?

T: Hey! One time. Ouch!

Q: What kind of job did you have?

T: There it comes again. You can come here.

T: Evil

Q: What’s evil?

Q: What’s your talk about?

T: You don’t know?

Q: I don’t

Q: Do you remember the explosion across the street?

T: All are gone.

Q: How many are left?

T: Regardless. Oh no! We’re here. Whoops!

Q: Who’s here?

Q: Do you like that bell (bell started ringing)?

T: I’m coming

Q: Can you come talk to us?

T: What’d you say?

Q: Can you come talk to us?

T: Two or three

Q: Two or three are here? (Donna asked this)

T: What? You bitch!

Q: Besides “ghosts” is there anything you’d like to be called? (child asked – very good question!)

T: Yes. It’s good.

Q: Ghost is good?

T: Night. That’ll work. I never.

Q: Never what?

T: Try

Q: Try what?

Traci took the blindfold and headphones off. She said they have one rude ghost that cussed at everyone. She told them how the last group was told to “fuck off.” Those words aren’t allowed on broadcast radio. Ben reported that he saw two ghosts in the front room. One was tall and one was short.

Annex Building

Jason led groups in the Annex Building, which is attached to the gymnasium. He told the group to be alert to the room around them and to not watch the equipment. Several years ago during an investigation, I witnessed a little boy popping out of the bathroom door. Nobody in my group saw it because they were watching the equipment.

First Group

Jason started them off with dowsing rods and showed them how to use them.

• They are happy
• They are not alone
• They were talking to a girl
• She’s wearing a dress
• She’s between 8 and 12 years old
• She lives in the building
• She enjoys the weddings and reunions held in the building
• She likes to play games

Bell rang. As they changed groups to go up to the attic, Jason talked to the group about how frequently children have been seen there. Ben then came into the room and showed them the SLS camera and demonstrated it.

• The one they were talking to isn’t alone
• They were talking to a child
• They were talking to the little boy
• He likes to play ball

They had a ball and tried to get the boy to knock the ball across the room, but nothing happened.

• He said he would reveal himself to the group tonight

The session ended and the group was moving onto the basement.

Second Group

After explaining all the equipment, Jason got started with his session. The bell rang as they got started. He also explained how the chairs can actually be used for communications. They make a ticking sound long after someone gets up. They started off with the Spirit Box, but they didn’t have any better results than I had in the gym. Ben was roaming around with the SLS camera and showed them how it worked. They then moved onto using dowsing rods. The group didn’t always announce the answers the rods gave. I only included the responses I could hear on the recording.

• They liked the school dances
• They watch over the children
• Ghosts like to stay at the Benton house
• They remember Elizabeth Benton
• They know the little boy who is there

They tried the Spirit Box again, but had no luck. The session ended and the group headed to the basement after a short break.

Third Group

• There was a boy there with them
• He’s under ten years old
• He likes dogs
• He has brothers
• He has sisters
• He liked school
• He liked reading books
• He didn’t like to play tag
• He likes horses, playing games, music and singing

Bell rang. The groups switched out for the expanded areas. Jason mentioned that he saw a shadow move across the door.

• He had a dog and a lot of friends
• There are other children there
• He knows the little girl who is there
• The little girl is not his sister

As the session was coming to an end, my recorder caught the whistling sound that my group heard in the gymnasium. No one in Jason’s group heard it.

Overview

It was an interesting investigation. All of the groups got the same responses without any prior knowledge of what the group before them discovered. From what we know, here is who was there with us:

• A little boy who was around 10 years-old.
  • He had a sister, but it wasn’t the little girl who was there
  • He also had a brother. Neither sibling was there.
  • He liked ball, dogs, games (except for Tag)
  • He liked school, reading, music and singing
• A little girl between the age of 10-12 years-old
  • She was wearing a dress
  • She lives in the building
  • She likes playing games
• A woman who was between 15 and 20 years-old
  • She had a child, but wasn’t married (she told one group she was married). She wouldn’t talk about the child.
  • She can leave to visit family members who are still alive
  • She likes the weddings and receptions
  • She doesn’t like Christmas, but does like Halloween
  • She didn’t have any pets
  • No family members were there with her
  • None of the other ghosts there were her friends
  • She likes the weddings and receptions
  • She went to school in New Harmony
  • She didn’t have any pets
• A man – no age was determined
  • He didn’t work there and wasn’t married
  • He gave us no further information. He only popped in one time.
• A man in the basement
  • He drowned
  • He might have been there during the Harmonist period, because he talked about Father Rapp.
  • He didn’t move East with the group, but knew they were going (was he already dead?)
  • He had children a long time ago
  • He wanted help, but didn’t respond to offers of assistance
  • A grumpy man in the basement
  • He swore a lot and didn’t seem to like women
  • He wouldn’t provide any other information
• A woman in the basement
  • Not a lot of details were provided about her. The men kept talking over her.
• Possibly one more male. They said there were four of them and Traci heard several male voices.

Thank you to everyone who came out to investigate with us. Special thanks to my team who literally made this possible!

Prologue

The night’s horror began with a dream.

DeAnna was a quiet observer in her own bedroom, pinned to the ceiling like a butterfly on a straight-pin, helpless and vulnerable.

Below her, she could see her own body resting on the bed in the spare bedroom. She was lying on her side, like she normally slept. One arm was tucked under the embroidered pillowcase her grandmother made and the other was bent at her side, with only her fingertips poking out from under the covers.

What is going on? Am I sleeping?

Darkness swirled all around her, but she couldn’t move an inch.

As she watched herself from her bird’s eye view, she could see her chest rising and falling, rising and falling, the rhythm growing faster with every breath. She could feel the inhalations fill her lungs, even though she was separated from her body. It was the strangest of sensations. She would have found it fascinating had it not been so terrifying.

What is keeping me pinned to the ceiling?

She tried to move, but her body didn’t respond to the messages her brain sent it. All she could do was watch.

Her heart began pounding faster.

Before she could even react, the room suddenly filled with the stench of death. The putrid malodor of rotten flesh nearly choked her with its intensity. It smelled like a dead animal left out in the broiling sun, so pungent, she could almost taste it.

Shadows rolled through the room, swirling in on themselves and dancing wildly across the walls. When they stopped, she was able to see him standing there beside her bed.

He was massively tall and broad, made of smoke and shadows. If he had a face, it was lost in the darkness. A sense of evil wafted off him, the power and malevolence as strong as the stink of death that surrounded him. Panic speared through her.

Please Lord, make it stop!

He stood there for an eternity, just staring down at her. Her mind spun wildly. He could do anything he wanted to her, and she couldn’t even scream out or call for help. Her husband was sleeping in the upstairs bedroom. If she could scream, maybe he’d hear her, but would he believe her?

Would he tell her it was just a dream like before?

Her sleeping in the guest bedroom was already causing enough strife between them. How could she fully explain the horrors she’d experienced in her own bedroom when he thought she was simply losing her mind?

The entity moved closer to the bed, and the fear filled her whole.

Please don’t hurt me! Please let me wake up!

Without warning, a strong earthy scent filled the room, blocking out the pungent odor of the demon. It smelled like damp soil after a hard rain, the aroma that envelops you when you walk through a deep forest. The dream abruptly ended, and she felt herself sink back into her body, like oil being poured into a bottle. She tried to move, but she couldn’t. Her body was still paralyzed.

There was no doubt in her mind she was fully awake now.  She could hear the sounds of cars whishing by on the street outside and the hum of the refrigerator down the hallway in the kitchen. The wind gusted against the house, making the window rattle like it always did when the weather outside was angry and high-spirited.

Please God. Make it stop!

No sooner than the words rushed through her mind, she felt the unmistakable sensation of iron-hot fingers grazing her cheek.

The heat was intense, traveling through her veins like wildfire burning her from the inside out. She could feel the searing heat roll down her body, filling every blood vessel with fire and embers. The pain became unbearable, maddening. She wanted to claw at her arms and legs, tearing the flesh apart to release the fire, but she couldn’t.

As quickly as it started, the pressure eased and the touching stopped. She opened her eyes, wanting to look beside her to make sure he was gone, but was too terrified to find out. What if he was still there, waiting for her to find him?

She held her breath, listening closely for any sign he was there, but she didn’t hear anything. She still wasn’t able to move, but she could shift her eyes.

Please let him be gone!

It took every ounce of courage she had, but she finally looked.

He was still standing there, watching her.

Their eyes met, and she felt a scream lodge in her throat, silenced by the paralysis. His eyes were unlike anything she’d ever seen before. They almost looked reptilian, lacking any semblance of humanity.

He was going to kill her.

He would pin her to the bed and pull the life right out of her. Her husband would find her body the next morning and not understand what had happened.

God, please help me!

With a creak of bed springs, he sat down beside her and reached out to stroke her face again, his fingers filled with the same fire as before.

“I can feel you,” he said to her in a penetrating voice.

Our Father, who art in Heaven…

His fingers left her face and began exploring her body. As he stroked her skin, his burning touch grew impossibly hotter. She began shaking violently, the only movement she was capable of making. There was no breaking free from him. She knew this with every ounce of her being.

“I can taste you,” he said.

Hallowed be thy name…

She squeezed her eyes shut, her body shuddering uncontrollably as his hands roamed over her skin. The sense of violation was intolerable. He was claiming her. Marking her for future use, toying with her like a predator with its prey until he would finally kill her.

Thy Kingdom come, thy will be done, on Earth as it is in Heaven…

The earthy smell of one of her protectors drifted into the room again and then, just like that, he was gone.

The weight lifted off her body, and she was suddenly able to move again.  Her mind became a wild animal, fighting its way out of a cage. She was instantly ice cold, as all the heat in her veins turned to ice.

She scrambled up out of bed, looking down at the imprint he made when he sat beside her.  She wanted to run until her lungs burst, but where would she go? Would she race up to the master bedroom and wake Tom?

The thought caused her to pause. Tom already thought she was crazy. If she woke him, he’d tell her it was just a dream. Things had been going so well between them lately. She didn’t want to take any chances on ruining it. She stood there in the doorway, paralyzed once more, this time by indecision.

The floor creaked in the corner of the room, and it was enough to jolt her from the doorway. She bolted into the living room where another horror possibly waited for her.

She looked around with wild eyes, expecting to see him there too, but the room was empty.

With trembling legs, she found her way to the couch and curled up in the corner, pressing her knees to her chest in a fetal position. The sobs came quickly, wracking through her body in waves.

Why me? God, why me?

Little did she know but this was only the beginning. Her hell was only getting warmed up.

New Harmony, Indiana, has many haunted venues, something we’ve learned up close and person over the past few years. We decided to do something different this Halloween season. Instead of investigating one building, we decided to investigate three buildings in one night.

We started off at Thrall’s Opera House.

(Above) Thrall’s Opera House as it would have appeared in the early 1900’s

Thrall’s Opera House

(Excerpt from Haunted New Harmony)

Thrall’s Opera House is a surprising presence in a small town. It is the type of building you would expect to see in a larger town, not one built by a colony of people who fled from religious persecution.

Behind the magnificent façade lingers a secret. The building is actually one of the old community houses constructed by the Harmonists to house their members. Built in 1824, it once looked similar to Community House #2 and the three others that are no longer in existence.

Shortly after construction was finished, Rapp decided to sell the town and relocate his flock to Pennsylvania, where they would create the town of Economy. It was the fourth and final dormitory that the Harmonists built before moving.

When the Owen Community took over, the building was used for a variety of functions. It served as dormitory housing, as a warehouse and was often the site of lectures and dances.

The building was first used as a theater in 1859 when it was purchased by the New Harmony Dramatic Association/Thespian Society. Renamed Union Hall, the building soon underwent a dramatic transformation and became the focal point of New Harmony’s cultural society. It was used by various theatrical groups, including the world-famous Golden Troupe, a local family of actors and actresses.

(Above) The Golden family sitting on their front porch

In 1888, the building was sold once again to a man named Eugene Thrall. Thrall had owned an interest in the building since 1867 but decided to purchase the rest of the holdings. After his death, his widow renamed the building Thrall’s Opera House. Thrall did extensive renovations to the building, giving it its current Victorian elegance. It was even used as a nickelodeon movie theater from 1911 until 1913.

The building was once again sold in 1913 and endured its most diverse incarnation when it became a gas station and garage.

In 1964, the Harmonie Associates encouraged the town to purchase the building. It underwent more extensive renovations and restorations, returning it to the grand dame it once was.

It’s not surprising that the building is haunted. Residents and visitors have experienced strange occurrences at the opera house for decades. Strange footsteps can be heard on the stage area when the building is empty and unexplained shadows have been seen moving in the wings.

Our group of 26 divided up into two smaller groups and began investigating the building.

Meagan Patterson held court on the stage.

Stage – First Session

Group One: Rick, Liz, Jamie, Maddie, Eddie, Tina, Mark, Rick, Ashley, Jason, Tim, Sandy, Matthew, Elliott

Meagan asked everyone to introduce themselves and then instructed them to turn their cell phones on airplane mode so they don’t affect the equipment.  She also encouraged the group to look around and not focus on the equipment. There could be activity happening all around the group, but if everyone is looking down at the equipment, they won’t see it.

She then showed them how to use dowsing rods and then passed them around.

Dowsing Rod Session:

As they started the session, they began hearing random taps at the edge of the stage. This is something we’ve experienced in past investigations and couldn’t find an explanation for.

• Eugene was with them
• They enjoyed the Dulcimer concert last week
• Wouldn’t answer the question “were you the one who turned off the sound system last week’
• Received a tap when she asked if they were tapping on the chairs
• Eugene played an instrument – it wasn’t brass.

The group’s first dowsing rod session didn’t provide a great deal of responses. Typically, it takes a while to get used to the feel of the dowsing rods and to relax enough to receive answers. We’ve found during other investigations that some people are better conduits than others, something that quickly presents itself over the course of the investigation. When the fifteen minutes were up, Meagan and Joni’s groups changed places.

Stage – Second Group

Group Two: Gerald, Diane, Adam, Paige, Shanna, Gerry, Lori, Debbie, Lisa, Paula, John, Heather, Angela, Brent

After they introduced themselves, the group started a dowsing rod session. Several people in her second group had used dowsing rods before, which was a good start for the group.

• Someone there helped build the building
• He’s not angry
• He’s sad
• He didn’t bring someone with him
• He stays there because he has unfinished business
• He doesn’t believe he’ll finish the business
• He’s at peace

The session ended so the group moved onto the next location.

Annex- first group

Joni’s group investigated the area behind the stage where props are stored. Among the items is Francis Golden’s piano. Francis was part of the Golden Family. They performed all over the country, but Thrall’s Opera House was their home base. We were hoping to connect with one or more of the family members during our investigation.

We did a Spirit Box session for fifteen minutes. A Spirit Box is a modified radio that scans rapidly through the radio stations, allowing the ghosts to speak through the white noise. It’s usually a very productive means of garnering conversations with the dead and this time would be no different. We got a response after the first question.

A man asked, “What is your presence here?” A woman answered, “Typical.” I don’t know if she was being serious, telling us she was just a typical ghost or if she was being sarcastic, telling us we were being typical investigators.

 

A few more questions were asked without getting a response and then someone asked if they could tell us their names. A male voice said, “Certainly.”

When it was my turn, I asked if Eugene was there. A male voice said, “Yep.”

We went around the room and asked more questions but didn’t get any further responses.

Annex – second group

We settled in for a Spirit Box session, but it took them a while to talk to us this time. Someone in the last group asked them about their death before I remembered to discourage those kinds of questions. Sometimes that puts them off and they pull back from us. Eddie asked if they were male or female and we finally got a very faint response of “Male.”

Someone asked if they stayed there all the time and a fairly garbled male voice said what sounds to me like “That is rough.”

Eddie asked if Eugene played a string instrument and we got a very faint response that sounds like “yes.” At the time, we thought it said no, so he continued asking questions about the instrument. In the middle of it, a male voice came through and said, “It’s all right.”

Someone asked if they loved New Harmony as much as she does and a warbled male voice said what sounds like “That’s why I got them.”

When asked how old they are, a faint voice came through and said, “ten.”

Eddie asked if they are stuck in the building and we got one of the more intriguing responses of the night. A male voice told him, “I ghost.” This brings to mind many further questions. His response suggests that he’s fully aware of his situation, but what does “I ghost” truly mean to him?

Eddie then asked if he could tell us his name. A very clear male voice came through and said, “It’s Nelson.”

We asked a few more questions, but didn’t get responses.

Break-off Sessions

We put electric candles in front of the mirrors in the men’s dressing room and invited guests to sit in front of the mirrors to see what would happen. Typically, we set up our mirror gazing experiments in smaller rooms with only one person at a time, but we thought we’d take advantage of the situation and use what we had. One participant had an experience. He saw a black shadow move from behind him and zip towards the door. Another group experienced the dressing room door close by itself while they were inside.

Community House #2

(Excerpt from Haunted New Harmony)

Community House #2 is one of the oldest structures in New Harmony. Built in circa 1822, it was constructed by the Harmonists to house members of the group. It was framed in heavy timbers and built with bricks at their brickyard.

(Above) Community House #2 when it was the A.H. Fretageot Furniture Store

Because the Harmonists were celibate, the dormitory buildings were used by both men and women. The first floor would have been used for community activities, with the second and third floor consisting primarily of dormitory rooms. A long hall separated the east side from the west side, with bedrooms lining the hallway. Men would have been on one side, with women on the other side. During the Harmonist days, there were four community houses but only two remain standing to this day.

During the second Utopian society, the Owen group used the dormitory for a school for children and housing for students and teachers.

(Above) Community House #2 when it was the A.H. Fretageot Furniture Store

Since that time, the building has been used for a number of purposes, including a print shop for the local newspaper, a boarding house, tavern, tea room and the A.H. Furniture Store.

After a brief history review, we again broke into two groups. Meagan’s first group investigated the second floor in one of the old Harmonist dormitory rooms, while Joni’s first group investigated the third floor.

Second Floor – First group

Dowsing Rod Session:

• There was a child with them
• He was the little boy who was injured during a freak cannon accident
• He likes to play with the toys they bring in
• He doesn’t want to play with the equipment they brought
• He remembers Eddie, who’s been there twice before on investigations
• He likes playing tricks on people
• He likes running down the hallways
• There are other children with him
• They remember town marshal Scotty and his dog Murphy
• They remember the print shop
• They are the reason why one of the women felt tense
• The woman in white was with them
• She doesn’t take care of the children

Meagan told the group about George Gerard. He lived there in the mid 1800’s. He was expecting money to come to him in the mail. When it didn’t come in, he committed suicide in the building. The money was later found on the floor at the post office.

• George Gerard was there
• They were on the women’s side of the building
• The little boy wasn’t there any longer.

Second Floor – Second Group

They started the dowsing rod session and began getting information.

• Someone wanted to talk to them

During that point, they captured an EVP, which is a ghost voice. It isn’t heard at the time, but is picked up on the audio recorder.  Someone asked if he had a dog and he said, “No.” The response is faint, which is typical of true EVPs.

Meagan shared a story with them. She was up in the attic checking something one day and heard a cat meow, which was strange since there isn’t a cat in the building.

• Timothy wasn’t there
• They were talking to a woman
• Doesn’t like to play ball
• She’s too old to play ball
• Not in the war
• Was a slave
• Many slaves moved through New Harmony

This group didn’t have much luck with the dowsing rods. Sometimes people overthink the rods and will actually stop the movement because they think they’re causing the movement. We’ve just discovered that some people are better at them than others.

Time was up, so the group moved to the next location.

Third Floor – first group

We got started with our Spirit Box session. The box was chatty from the very start, but most of the responses were garbled and we couldn’t make them out. It wasn’t until someone asked, “How many spirits are here with us,” before we started getting clear responses. It sounded as though they were counting off. One said, ”Two,” and then another said, “three” and then the clearest response of the night said, “Five.”

We continued to get faint responses we couldn’t quite make out. One of the stories regarding the building involves a ten year-old boy who was killed during a freak cannon accident. We’ve talked with him on previous investigations. We asked them what his name was and got a faint response of “John.”

I wanted to run down to the second floor and snap a few photos for this evidence review. I told them what I was doing and a female voice came across the Spirit Box and said, “Take your time, Maam.” We all laughed because the response was so clear.

Someone asked if there was anyone else there besides the five women and a male voice said, “For sure.”

We got on the topic of pets in the building. When asked if they had dogs or cats in the building, a female said, “Ask me.”

“Do you ever leave this building?” got a strange response. It sounds like the same male voice said, “Quit passing.” Was this in response to some members of the group who passed when it was time for their turn? Or did it mean something altogether different?

Third Floor – second group

As our second group started, I asked them to be as kind to the second group as they were to the first. We introduced ourselves and then got started. I asked if they could tell us their names and a garbled voice came through and said, “I’m Adam.”

Someone asked what kind of wood the floor was made of and a female voice responded with “Kirkpatrick.” It’s possible she was telling us her name since the response came so close to the previous question.

Are you children or adults got a faint response of “adults.”

The responses that came after the next few questions were so faint, it was difficult to make them out. Someone asked if they moved to other buildings and it sounded like we got a response of “safe.”

The last time we investigated the third floor, one of the bearing beams in the room cracked and split. The sound was loud, making us think the building was coming down. They believe it cracked due to moisture expansion, but the timing couldn’t have been more profound, coming during the middle of our investigation. I asked if they knew who broke the beam and received a response of “We aren’t sure.”

Someone asked if they lived there and the group thought the response was “All my life.” I slowed it down and it’s probably just music from the radio, but sounded like “why would I lie” to me.

When asked if they protect the children, we heard a faint response of “no.” When she asked if they protect the children of the town, another faint voice said, “Probably.”

The last question of the session was answered with a fairly profound, but faint response. “How many people are in our group.” The response was “ten” and then another voice said “eleven”.  Three members of our group were in the print shop, so eleven was the correct answer.

Print Shop

We had a break-off session on the third floor. Several people would go into the Print Shop alone and work with a pendulum. Some of their results were interesting.

First group

First Break-off group

• There are children there
• Wasn’t in the war
• His name was Timothy (little boy)
• He likes to play ball
• He’s not stuck there
• He’s missing a leg
• He has friends there
• He’s not lonely
• He has more than five friends there
• There wasn’t anyone else in the room with him

Second break-off group (they were told Timothy was in the room)

• He was just communicating with the other group
• When he was bad he didn’t have to go under the stairs
• At that moment, they saw the rope in the room move

Third break-off group (weren’t told anything by previous group)

• There was only one person in the room
• He/she can feel they’re there
• He/she didn’t enjoy the weather (it was rainy all day)
• Not male
• She’s a female
• She didn’t work there
• She doesn’t know if she lived there
• She wasn’t married
• She was related to the little boy

Second Group

First break-off group

• They had a difficult time getting responses and spent most of their session trying to find out what yes/no looked like. This is normal. Some people are better with dowsing rods and pendulums than others.

Second break-off group

• They were talking to the woman in the white dress that’s been seen in the building
• She takes care of the children
• The little boy wasn’t there
• The children were happy
• There aren’t any children there with her right now
• She can read
• She fed the children
• She didn’t get the children ready for bed

Third break-off group (were told by the previous group they were talking to the woman in white)

• The little boy wasn’t with them
• The woman in white was with them
• She doesn’t stay on the third floor
• She doesn’t go to all of the floors
• She would often sneak into the men’s side of the building
• She didn’t work there
• She didn’t live there

Fauntleroy Home

The Fauntleroy Home was the 53^rd home built in New Harmony. It was originally the Franz Pheil house. After the Harmonists left New Harmony, a variety of people lived there during the Owen period.

(Excerpt from Haunted New Harmony)

Robert Henry Fauntleroy was intrigued by Robert Owen’s tantalizing concept of the communal society. He sold his farm in Virginia and all of his slaves before moving to the town. There, he met and married Robert Owen’s daughter Jane Dale Owen. They built onto the house, adding additional space for their growing family. In her teenage years, their oldest daughter, Constance created the Minerva Society, which was one the country’s first women’s club. The group had their own constitution and by-laws and discussed everything from poetry to current events, keeping detailed logs and protocol for their meetings. The club ended after four years, due to complications incurred during the Civil War, but their imprint on history remained.

After the original Fauntleroys passed away, the house became a rental property until it was purchased in 1911 by another Fauntleroy.

(Above) A photo of Mary Emily Fauntleroy sitting in her favorite room

Mary Emily Fauntleroy had always been interested in New Harmony history, as well as in historic preservations. Soon after she acquired the house, she began making modifications to the property. She tore down walls and added modernizations to turn the house into a museum, while also making it more comfortable for her to live in. She built several additions, including a kitchen, dining room and a sunroom so she could live in the house but still have portions of it available to the public. She spent countless hours tracking down furniture and artifacts that had once been located in the home, including the minutes from the Minerva Society.

“It was like blood, sweat and tears for her as she tracked down all of the artifacts, “Amanda Bryden told me.

She then opened the house up for tours. In fact, according to Amanda, she offered the first tour site in New Harmony. “People would jump in their cars or horse and buggy and head to New Harmony,” she told us.

Mary Emily owned the house for nearly twenty years.

(Above) The Fauntleroy Home as it would have appeared when Mary Emily Fauntleroy lived there

In the 1920’s the Indiana Federation of Women’s Clubs became interested in the property. They offered to purchase it from her, but allow her to live in the house until she died. According to the agreement, nothing would change for her. She could still remain at the house and act as the hostess, but she wouldn’t have to take care of the maintenance.

All was well for several years, but then the Great Depression hit the nation and it became too much for the club to handle. They turned the house over to the state in 1939, who listed it as a historic site. After World War II broke out, everything changed.

With the hardships of war looming over the country, the state was forced to cease operations here. They forced Mary Emily to move out, despite the earlier promises that were made to her.

“Thankfully, she just ended up next door, moving in with her brother Homer and his wife. Still, this is where she wanted to be and she wasn’t able to be here,” Amanda said.

Mary Emily passed away in 1954, never being able to move back into her beloved home.

The first reported haunting in the house came in 1845 when the ghost of the house passed the lady of the house on the staircase. It has been known as New Harmony’s most haunted house for decades.

The haunting in the house became even more potent after the State of Indiana Museum Division decided to do an extensive renovation to the home. In order to return the house to their chosen time period of 1850, they had to remove all of Mary Emily’s beloved collection.

(Above) The Fauntleroy Home while it was undergoing renovations nearly ten years ago

Meagan oversaw the investigation on the first floor, while Joni investigated the second floor.

First Floor – first group

They investigated the foyer area beside the staircase. We have photos of Mary Emily sitting in this room and by all accounts, it was her favorite room in the house. We soon learned that two of our guests were former tour guides for Historic New Harmony. They described feeling very uncomfortable inside the house. Liz told me about getting pushed while on the stairs and Elliott reported always singing “Amazing Grace” as loud as possible while walking through the building when he was alone and needed to come inside for something.

The group settled into a dowsing rod session:

• They saw him and his wife Sandy outside earlier in the day.

The couple reported visiting the Fauntleroy Home earlier in the week. Meagan asked them to share their story. Sandy walked past with her dog and spent some time talking with Mary Emily. She looked back and her dog was mysteriously released from his harness. It wasn’t unlatched. It was sitting on the ground beside him. Normally, her dog Nacho would have taken advantage of the sudden freedom and would have bolted, but strangely just remained beside his harness.

They continue on with the session.

• She likes pets
• She liked their dog, Nacho

They didn’t get any further responses.

First Floor – second group

Her next group started their dowsing rod session. Since Heather was the best dowser in the group, they had her hold the rods while other people asked questions.

• She’s the only one with them
• She’s not sad
• She doesn’t play the piano
• She doesn’t feel trapped there
• She planted flowers there
• She liked to be outside
• She does play the piano (might have been someone else)
• She brought her harp over from Scotland
• Homer (her brother) isn’t there

Meagan told the group that Robert Henry Fauntleroy was an inventor and made his own telescope, which is housed in the room beside them. She encouraged them to ask questions.

• He liked giving lessons to children on astrology
• He has a favorite constellation
• The star Betelgeuse is not in that constellation
• He or she was in the room with them
• Jane Dale Owen Fauntleroy was with them
• She likes the renovations

Second Floor – first group

We set up camp on the second floor in the bedroom we often felt energy lingering in. In past years, we’ve gotten a lot of responses, but the house would be fairly quiet for the duration of our investigation. As soon as I turned on the Spirit Box, they let their intentions be known. An angry male voice came across and said, “Get out!”

After that response, I didn’t count on getting much more, but when someone asked if they were with us, a different male voice said, “You know it.”

Someone asked if this was their room and a male voice came across fairly indignantly. “This is Bowser’s Room,” he said. We’re not sure who Bowser is. Could it be a nickname that we aren’t aware of?

We went around the room a few more times before we got another response, which might lend some explanation to why they weren’t talking to us. A woman in our group asked what day it was and a male voice said, “So evil.” Did they think we were evil?

Time was up, so we switched groups.

Second Floor – second group

(Above) How the upstairs bedroom would have looked in Mary Emily’s day. Photo taken by her brother Homer Fauntleroy.

Although we didn’t think so at the time, this group would capture the best evidence of the night, if not the entire Haunted New Harmony season. We did a Spirit Box session and didn’t get a single response. The funny thing was, I could feel them crowding in around us. I wasn’t sure why they weren’t talking. We turned the Spirit Box off early and just sat in the silence to see if they would rap on a wall or turn on the flashlight, but they wouldn’t comply.

Paige was sitting to the right of me. When she sat down, she felt fingers latch onto her shoulders and then shove her. Her stomach was also bothering her the duration of our time in the Fauntleroy. She didn’t tell us about it until we were walking back at the end of the night.

Someone in the group said he was seeing shadows move, so I pulled my camera out and snapped two photos. The room was completely dark, so I had to use the Night Shot option on my phone camera. The first photo came out exactly as we saw it. In the second photo, we saw what was really going on. In the photo, you can see a woman floating between the man by the window and the woman in the middle. To the right of the woman you can see a group of woman, looking quite indignant, standing with arms folded. On the other side of the man on the right of the picture, you can see another grouping. It’s either four small dark forms or one big human shape, depending on how you look at it. Either way, we were able to prove we weren’t alone.

(Above) Photo #1 shows nothing more than what we could see with our eyes

 

(Above) Photo #2, taken seconds later, shows what was really going on in the room with us

Break-off Groups

We had several people go into the landing on the second floor and experiment with the pendulum during our second floor investigation.

First Group

First break-off group

• He/she lived in the house
• He/she planted flowers in the garden

Second break-off group

• Mary Emily is in the house
• There are more than four people in the house
• She’s not sad
• She plays the harp
• She’s not happy there
• It was her wedding dress that got destroyed (not true. She was never married. It was her mother’s dress that was destroyed)
• She was sad that the dress was destroyed
• Her brother Homer isn’t there with her
• She wasn’t the one playing the piano at night

Second Group

First break-off group

• The first group was soft-spoken, so I couldn’t hear most of what they said
• She told Mary Emily she saw a picture of her with her harp
• Mary Emily didn’t enjoy gardening
• It was too much work for her
• She enjoyed her collection
• She was sad when her dress was destroyed
• She was upset when she had to move from the house
• She’s happy they can’t take the house away from her now

Second break-off group (I don’t know if they weren’t getting responses or if they just weren’t saying the responses aloud. I just heard a lot of questions on the digital recorder I left on the windowsill beside them, but not a lot of answers.)

• She didn’t like it when they built the bridge
• It wasn’t the noise that bothered her
• They thought there was too much going on at once

Third break-off group (this group whispered their questions and I couldn’t make most of them out over the sounds of the other groups)

• Didn’t like living with her brother
• She’s not attached to a necklace (??)

As we made the walk back to Thrall’s Opera House, everyone was buzzing about the investigation, sharing their favorite moments of the night with one another. True paranormal investigations are nothing like what you see on television. They can be boring and tedious, but they can also be vastly intriguing. What we experienced was real and was astounding if you really think about it. We actually communicated with people who once visited those hallways but have been dead for decades, if not centuries.

(Above) L-R Meagan Patterson, Crystal Folz, Joni Mayhan, Paula Bundy, Traci Hoehn and Rick Schlegelmilch

Haunted New Harmony would like to thank everyone who participated in this event, from Joni’s amazing team to the State of Indiana Museum Division, to Meagan Patterson and, last but not least, all the guests who joined us.

 

 

 

 

As you stand on the sidewalk outside Workingmen’s Institute in New Harmony, Indiana, and admire the massive Victorian Romanesque Revival architecture, it’s not difficult to imagine a haunting transpiring there.

Workingmen’s Institute was established in 1838 by philanthropist William Maclure, who was Robert Owen’s business partner during the second communal experiment in New Harmony. The library originated in the old Harmonist Church. When the structure began falling apart due to the passages of time, a new building was built and the library was moved. It is the oldest continually operating library in the state of Indiana.

As a paranormal investigator, my intention for investigating these old historic buildings isn’t founded in any Halloween shenanigans. I simply want to know more about the people who spent so many years of their lives there. When historical records fail us, we’ve found that we can often go to the source and communicate with the souls who lived that history. We sometimes learn secrets from the past that have been either forgotten or, in some cases, covered up and buried. This investigation would prove to be interesting, to say the least.

This was our second investigation of the grand old building and it wouldn’t disappoint us. We wanted to know the names of the people still lingering there and we attempted to learn more about several monumental moments in the building’s past.

We divided up into four groups. One member of each group was assigned the role of “Group Leader.” They were provided with a timeline and navigated their groups to each area of the building.

The zones were set up as follows: Maclure Room, Library, Natural History Room and the Gallery.

First Floor – Maclure Room – Lead by Rick Schlegelmilch

When you walk into the Maclure Room, you can almost feel the layers of history swirl around you. The room is large and rectangular, occupied by wooden library tables, several old pianos and room for folding chairs. Workingmen’s Institute hosts a bevy of lectures here. You can come and listen to a wide array of topics or, on a quiet day, you can use one of the tables for a project.

Shannon DeLap, the Circulations Manager, has heard the pianos play several notes, even though the room was empty and the covers were closed over the keys. Over the years, others have heard phantom voices and footsteps that couldn’t be logically explained.

We used the room for several divination experiments.

(Above) New Harmony natives Robyn Davenport and Linda Clifford trying the Ganzfeld Method.

On one table, we set up the Ganzfeld Experiment. This sensory deprivation experiment is simple. Participants wear white goggles and headphones that are connect to a laptop that is playing white noise. In the middle of the table is a red lamp. Rick brought groups of four to the table and gave them ten minutes sessions.

The Ganzfeld Experiment is interesting because it allows people to tap into their psychic or medium abilities by eliminating outside distractions. After they finished, I asked them to write in a book, describing their experiences.

(Above) Rick Schlegelmilch assisting two guests with the Ganzfeld Method

Ganzfeld Experiment Notes

• I heard my daughter yelling at me, “Mommy! Help!”
• I heard my mom yelling at me, “Help!” (both were in the same session)
• Seen rain on the goggles
• Heard a heartbeat
• Heard a tongue clicking sound
• Saw shadow move back and forth
• Something touched my back
• Kept hearing “Awesome!”
• Heard a faint but steady heartbeat sound all the way through
• Heard nothing
• Heard recording – sounded like a man asking a question and a woman answering – over and over and over – very repetitive. Same tone as if replaying a recorded conversation. The answer sounded like “flash moving forward.”

Guests were also invited to try the Psychomanteum. In this experiment, a floor length mirror is placed in a small dark room, lit only by an electric candle. As the participants sit in the chair and watch themselves in the mirror, strange things happened.
(Above) Ben Adams, from the New Albany area. His photo came out strange. What is the shape on his face?

I asked them to write down their experiences in a notebook and here is what they said:

• Slight headache. Mist formed behind me.
• My face was changing. One time, I looked like I had a beard. Also saw a shadow moving on the wall beside me.
• There is a woman with me in the room. I asked for the light to be very dim and if they were there.
• Saw a face looking over the top of my head at me. Was a quick flash.
• My face went black a few times.
• Sense of heaviness. Noise when room went silent. Not sure what it was.
• Some heaviness. Another face. Shoulders glow around it.
• Face distortion and wavy mirror. Lots of shadows by outside of door.
• Kept seeing old man’s face with grey hair and a large nose.
• My reflection didn’t move once when I thought I had smiled.
• Had a faint smell of something sweet, like baking.
• A man’s face appeared and he kept rolling his eyes up.
• The light shut off four times and my face would transform into several different faces – all men and boys
• The ruler on the wall to the left kept moving. I touched it to hold it still and it stopped, then started again a moment later.

Guests were also invited to experiment with several divination tools, including Rune Stones, pendulums and lithromancy, which involves tossing semi-precious stones onto a grid.

Everyone seemed to have a good time and it gave them a chance to catch their breath in between investigations.

 

Second Floor – Gallery– Lead by Joni Mayhan

I conducted the investigation in the Gallery, which was named appropriately due to the dozens of gilded-gold framed paintings on the walls.  The paintings were a gift from Dr. Edward Murphy, who arrived in New Harmony during the Owen period as a barefoot 13-year old orphan. The people in the town took him under their wings and helped him learn several trades. Having a thirst for knowledge, Edward used the books at Workingmen’s Institute to help him become more educated. He eventually went to medical school and became a doctor. When WMI needed to be moved to another location after the old Harmonist church needed to be torn down, he donated the land the new building would be built on and assisted with the process. Years later, he made several trips to Europe to have reproductions done of famous paintings. He brought them back to New Harmony so that the people there could see fine art without having to travel. His and his wife Sophia’s ashes are interred in an urn in the Gallery Room.

First Group ( Group D)

Linda, Margie, Chris, Robin, Megan, Tiffany

I started the session by explaining how to properly use dowsing rods. I then asked a few questions.

• We were talking to a man
• He was willing to talk to us

Most people aren’t successful the first time they attempt to use dowsing rods. Some people simply aren’t good conduits while others are too nervous and inadvertently alter the movement of the rods. Some people get the hang of it after several attempts, but others don’t have the same success.

We passed them around and got the following responses:

• Did not work in the library
• Did not live in New Harmony
• Not from Illinois
• They don’t remember the eight-legged calf from the museum
• He is male
• He wasn’t young when he was there
• He wasn’t married
• He wanted to get married though
• He doesn’t want to stay there

I added a flashlight to the mix to see if any of the resident ghosts would use it for communication, but gave up fairly quickly when it wouldn’t stop flickering on and off.

• Murphy and his wife was there
• They were messing with us (meaning some of our responses weren’t correct). We’ve often run into tricksters on our investigations. They will tell us misinformation and will often pull pranks during the investigations. In all honesty, if I were a ghost, this is probably how I would be too, so I can’t blame them.

I decided to try the Spirit Box and see what we could find. I asked if they could tell us their name and we immediately heard a faint response that I couldn’t quite make out.  We went around and asked a few more questions and were getting random radio interference. In between questions, someone said, “This is Doug. I got a question.”

Someone asked if he had any brothers or sisters and he responded with, “My name is Zion.”

I left the group to visit the other groups and take photos. While I was gone, the group continued with the Spirit Box. Someone asked if they knew any of their names and a man very clearly asked, “Who is the female?”

This was interesting because the entire group consisted of females. Was he asking about me because I left or someone else who caught his eye? They continued with their questions and a male voice came through and said, “Give me real questions.”

This made me laugh during evidence review because the group was actually asking good questions. Apparently they weren’t to his liking though.

Then, during a pause between questions, a male voice asked, “Do you people have best friends?”

I came back right afterwards and the group wasn’t sure if they got anything or not, so we went back to using the dowsing rods.

We decided to try to nail down more about the male we had been talking to earlier.

• He wasn’t a farmer
• He didn’t fish in the Wabash

They asked the rods to point to where he was standing in the room.  One of the rods pointed behind the group and the other pointed towards me, which is where I was feeling someone.

• His last name was Murphy

Time ran out, so they moved across the hallway to the Natural History Room and my next group came in.

Second Group (Group C)

Chris, Mary, Bambi, Rosemary, Mary Ann, Briel, Ben

We introduced ourselves and then I told them the story about Dr. Murphy. I was using my spare Spirit Box, one I’m not as happy with. We spent a minute trying to change the settings, but still weren’t getting any responses. We ran it for a few minutes on the AM setting, instead of FM, but weren’t getting any responses. It took me a few minutes to realize my speaker was cutting out, so we disconnected it altogether and began getting clear responses.

Ben asked, “Hi. What is your name?” and a faint male voice responded with, “Jacob.”

We switched it back to the AM setting and the group asked questions while I ran to check on the other groups and take photos. Not a single voice came through while I was gone. We immediately turned it off and tried the dowsing rods.

• He was standing behind him (I could feel it as well)
• They didn’t like his suggestion that they turn the building into a hotel
• He said he was Dr. Murphy (I told him about the trickster and suggested the next person asked if a famous public person was there to see if they gave us a positive response). Someone asked if Elvis Presley was there and it said yes, confirming my thoughts.

Chris started seeing shadows moving near the doorway. I turned so I could watch too, but it was gone by the time I looked.  We started to continue with the session when several of us heard a whistle. It was two note, almost like someone was calling someone else. The air conditioner was on at the time so my audio recording of it is too faint to post. I checked with the other groups but nobody else heard it.

• When asked if Mr. Murphy would present himself to us, the rods gave a “yes” response
• They are happy with us
• He didn’t whistle

The session ended and the next group joined me.

(Above) LaKeisha was the ghost’s favorite and she was a very good dowser too!

Third Group  (Group B)

(LaKeisha, Dustin, April, Joe, Amy, Kimberly, Shannon)

My third group had just been in the Maclure room, playing with the divination tools. After we introduced ourselves, we started the session with a dowsing rod session:

• There was a male there (there was also a female there)
• I asked if he could point to where he was standing, both rods pointed between me and Shannon
• Shannon asked for the rods to point to their favorite person in the room and they pointed to LaKeisha.
• He/she was a librarian there
• He/she didn’t work with the doctor
• We were talking to the female
• She was over forty years old
• She was a librarian

We decided to give the Spirit Box a chance. I started asking questions about the paintings that were damaged back in the 1970’s. Apparently, someone broke in, stole several Civil War weapons and then damaged several of the paintings. The group continued with the questions. Someone asked if the person was male or female and a voice responded, “Female.” Moments later, a male voice came across and told us, “It’s not me.” The response happened with a burst of static so it’s not easy to hear without headphones so I didn’t include it here.

We then got our first insult of the evening. A male voice came through and asked us, “Who’s the fat one?” All I can say is, he better not be talking about me!

Someone asked if we were boring them. A male voice said, “We’ve had enough.”

We went to dowsing rods for a few minutes while I replaced the batteries in my Spirit Box.

• There is a list of all the things that were stolen
• Several of the items were brought to the Old Rooming House (the nephew of the former owner of the Old Rooming House was suspected of the theft)
• They wouldn’t answer any questions regarding where the items were hidden

We got the Spirit Box going again. Shannon asked for their names and three separate voices chimed in. “McCoffee!” said the first one, which was followed by “James” and finally “Jessie.”

LaKeisha felt someone touch her neck. She asked who did it, but didn’t get a response.

My timer alarm went off, signifying the end of the session and a faint voice came through on the Spirit Box, asking, “What was that?” I heard the same voice several times, but his responses were never clear enough to mark. The session ended and my last group came in.

 

Fourth Group (Group A)

Steve, Chris, Joy, Jodi, Nancy, Pam, Duane, Ashlynn

We introduced ourselves and then started right off with a Spirit Box session since the last one was so productive. I wanted to catch them while they were feeling chatty.

I was like a dog with a good bone over the break-in at WMI, wanting to see if they would tell us more. That is part of the allure of paranormal investigations. When the living won’t or can’t tell you what happened, sometimes the dead are more cooperative. I asked if the boy brought some of the items to the rooming house and a man said, “He broke in.”

Another topic I was curious about was Dr. Murphy’s children. He and his wife Sophia had seven children and none of them made it to adulthood. I asked if they knew what happened to them and a man said, “They were scared.”

Ashlyn asked what their favorite color was and a male answered “yellow.” It was too faint to post, but was clear enough to hear with headphones. We went around a few more times and got several responses, but none of them were clear enough to understand. As the night wears on, the ghosts often wear down. Talking through a Spirit Box is often more difficult than moving dowsing rods, so we switched.

Chris was the best dowser of the evening for his group, so we asked him to hold to rods while we asked questions.

• I asked if there was a female with us and the rods both immediately pointed towards me, making everyone laugh. I’d been feeling her behind me all evening. I’m thinking she was the “Jessie” who gave her name earlier.
• She liked to bake.
• She liked to read
• She was a librarian there
• She worked there until she retired (slow yes)

This made me start thinking about something. Nora Chadwick Fretageot was the head librarian at WMI for eleven years in the mid 1800’s. She also is a known haunting at Arbor House. I asked if the ghost we were talking to was Nora and they said yes. I began asking qualifying questions to see if we were talking to her or someone pretending to be her. I asked if her husband was a doctor and she said no, but she did say he was a lawyer. I wasn’t certain if he was or not, but I did know he owned the AH Fretageot Furniture store that was once located in Community House #2 which is also haunted.

• She says she’s the one who shows herself on the staircase (Shannon has seen her several times)
• I asked if her name was Nora and the rods pointed behind me again.
• I began tuning into her and got a mind picture of a woman who was between 16-20 with brown hair and a plain dress. She was kind and sweet. I saw her being from the 1930-1940 era.
• She lived there during the 1800s.
• She worked in the library
• She said she worked there in the 1840s, which was a qualifying question because the building hadn’t been built yet in the 1840s.
• She was the female voice Traci heard in the library during their Estes Method session.
• The rods kept pointing towards me, so I got up and switched seats with someone sitting across the room. Then the rods pointed towards me in the other chair.
• She’s not the one who moves the books on the table downstairs but she knows who does it.
• I asked if they could point to where Joy was sitting and they pointed right at her.
• I asked if she could point to where she was standing in the room and she pointed beside Chris.

Time was up so we ended the session.

 

 

Second Floor – Natural History Room – led by Jason Nelson

The Natural History room is filled with artifacts from New Harmony’s past. Where else can you find an eight-legged calf, a horse skeleton and weapons from the Civil War in one place? I can remember visiting the museum as a child and being enthralled and also a little creeped out. Besides the collection of minerals and personal items from New Harmony’s past, there is also a collection of dead animals in jars and taxidermy critters scattered around the room.

First Group (Group C)

Chris, Mary, Bambi, Rosemary, Mary Ann, Briel, Ben

Jason welcomed his first group and explained New Harmony’s role in geology. They started with a Spirit Box session. As the group introduced themselves, it sounded as though someone said, “Hi Bri,” when Briel said her name.

As they went around the room, Jason noticed that one of the doors was opened. Something came across the Spirit Box that sort of sounded like, “Maybe it was me,” but it was too warbled to consider a true response.

The group asked what their names were and a very faint female voice said, “Tom.” It was too faint to clip as an EVP file, but was identifiable with headphones. As they continued going around the group, someone asked if they liked Halloween and a male responded with, “He’s going to get you.” This was fairly chilling to hear. Who was going to get them?

As usual, many of the Spirit Box answers were difficult to interpret. When one guest asked if they liked hanging around there a man said, “You giggle.” It was very clear and very confusing. No one was giggling. What did he mean?

Sometimes the questions get mundane as people run out of things to ask. Apparently the ghosts were growing bored. In between questions, a female said, “So typical.” Was she tired of getting asked the same questions over and over again? This was soon followed by a male voice agreeing with her. “They don’t stop,” he said.

Jason then moved on to a dowsing rod session:

• They weren’t talking to a male, which was confirmed by the next question. It was a female.
• She was close to their circle

At that moment, Ben’s KII detector started flickering, indicating someone was nearby. The other KII detector wasn’t doing anything. As they watched, it started going absolutely crazy, flickering up into the orange level. This was interesting to Jason because our KII devices seldom react at WMI.

• She worked there
• She enjoyed her job
• There were pets with them
• She worked with books
• She had kids
• She had pets

Chris got up and started walking around. He said he was having anxiety and chest pain. He then explained that he saw a shadow person walk past the window and continue down the wall. He got up and walked over to where he saw it. Right before it happened, his sister, Mary, felt an extreme cold chill. Chris said the room felt very heavy.

At that point the session ended and Jason’s next group came in.

Second Group (Group D)

Linda, Margie, Chris, Robin, Megan, Tiffany

They settled in for a Spirit Box session and went around a few times without getting anything valid. Several minutes into the session, the KII started flickering again, but stopped after a minute. Jason started seeing shadows move along the wall. The group started watching it. Curious about the KII reactions from the last group, Jason passed his meter down to the area where it reacted before.

There were very few responses. The few voices that came across the box were faint and difficult to make out. It wasn’t until Jason asked if they liked to dance that they got their first clear response. A woman said, “Yeah.” This makes me wonder if the ghost who was so chatty with the previous group followed them to the Gallery. Or perhaps they simply wore them out and they were saving their energy for the next group? They didn’t get any further responses, so they shut it off and tried the dowsing rods.

• There was someone with them
• Tom was with them
• He was a hunter
• He went to church in New Harmony
• He sang in the choir
• They were now talking to someone else. They weren’t talking to Tom (rods opened wide over her shoulder)
• Jason suggested that he might be indicating where he was standing, so they asked, but the rods didn’t move. She asked if he was standing behind Robin and it said no. She asked if he was standing behind her and they said no.
• He said he’s the only one who stays in the library (not true-we’ve gotten other responses there)
• There was someone there they’d rather talk to
• They asked the rods to point to where they were standing and they pointed to Robin
• They were still there with them (Tiffany was using the rods)
• There is someone there with him
• He likes being there
• The air conditioner came on with a roar, scaring everyone. She asked if it scared him too and he said yes.
• He likes it when people come in to visit him.
• I came into the room because I heard a whistle. I asked the group and the rods crossed, indicating they also heard the whistle.

The session ended and the next group came in.

Third Group ( Group A)

Jodi, Steve, Chris, Joy, Nancy, Pam, Duane, Ashlyn

Jason’s third group arrived fresh from the Estes Method session with Traci in the Library. He started off with a Spirit Box session. He started out by telling his group, like he told all the others, to keep the questions positive. He also told them about how someone in his first group came through on the Spirit Box, telling them one of the ghosts there was named Tom. He then asked if anyone wanted to talk to them. A warbled voice came through and said, “What a fool!”

Someone asked if he built the building and a man said “no” while he was still speaking. Someone else asked if there were any children there and the same voice that said, “What a fool!” answered with a very faint response of “A handful.” The third group had already gotten more responses than the first two groups put together.

Because they knew about the Tom response, every question was directed towards Tom. My impression is that there might be a Tom in the room, but he’s only one of many. In fact, the voice that told them about Tom was female. Someone started to ask another question to Tom and a voice came through and said, “Who was that?”

The group started seeing shadows moving near the taxidermy eagle. As they were talking about it, a male voice came through and told them, “That’s the seagull.”

Jason asked if they had a favorite hobby or sport and a child’s voice came through and said, “I did!” We’ve had this happen before. They’ll answer the question very literally if we’re not careful.

Someone asked how many of them were in the room with them and a male voice with a strong southern drawl said, “Maybe four.” That would have been my guess too, so I trust this answer.

“Did you have a dog?” was answered by a female who said, “Had a dog or doll” and then the same man said, “That old war buddy,” he said. He wasn’t done though. When asked if he lived his whole life in New Harmony, he said, “I did.”

Several people in Jason’s groups had been feeling cold drafts all night, even when the air conditioning wasn’t on. They felt it again during this session and spent a few minutes discussing it.

Someone asked what his job’s name was and a male voice responded with “baseball.” I don’t believe we had any professional baseball players from New Harmony, but it’s possible he misunderstood the question.

Jason then turned off the Spirit Box and did a dowsing rod session.

• Someone was in the room with them. He mentioned that he felt a presence directly behind him. As with many of the other groups, he called the ghost Tom. “Tom” liked to hunt and enjoyed hunting squirrels.
• He was a blacksmith

The session ended and the next group came in.

Fourth Group (Group B)

LaKeisha, Dustin, April, Joe, Amy, Kimberly, Shannon

Jason’s fourth group had just spent a session in the Gallery with me and were eager to see what they’d find in the Natural History Room. Jason started them out with a Spirit Box session.

After a few questions, they finally got a response. Someone asked what their favorite time of the year was and a very faint male voice said “Autumn.” I spent quite a bit of time trying to make the response audible without the benefit of headphones, but couldn’t bring it out any further.

Jason asked if they did the hokey pokey, which generated a laugh. He told them that they can ask all sorts of questions and they didn’t have to be serious. At that point a male voice came across the box and said what sounds like “Mis de nom,” which is French for “put in name.” I’m not certain how this applies to the question, but it was interesting enough to bear mentioning.

Shannon, who is the circulation manager (aka head librarian) at WMI, made the connection between the “Tom” they were talking to and the famous scientist, Thomas Say. She asked if that was him, but didn’t get a response. It is curious because some of Thomas Say’s work is housed and displayed in the room they were investigating.

They went around the room several times with the Spirit Box but didn’t get any responses. It was highly likely that we wore the ghosts out during the course of the night. They moved to a dowsing rod session:

• There was only one ghost in the room with them
• He/she was still hanging out by the window (the KII went off again at the same time)
• That’s his/her favorite spot in the room
• There was someone in the room they really wanted to talk to. She asked if they would point the rods at that person, but didn’t get a response. (Later, she realized the rods were actually pointing towards Shannon, which also happened to be the starting point).
• Shannon took the rods and asked for them to point to the person they wanted to talk to and it started pointing to the window before it turned around and pointed at her.
• They like it how Shannon tells them “good night” every night when she leaves
• They liked working there
• He is Thomas Say
• He is glad the Say Firefly is the state insect

They decided to spend their last few minutes discussing the investigation. Shannon mentioned that the energy was different in the room from the last investigation. The energy was odd in the room the last event, but was calmer this time. They also thought it was interesting that the name Tom kept coming up. Shannon mentioned that the other group heard the name Tom too.

The session ended and everyone headed downstairs to discuss the evening.

Library – Led by Traci Hoehn and assisted by Paula Bundy

 (Transcribed and written by Traci Hoehn)

When you enter the library of the WMI, you are surrounded by the portraits of past librarians as well as the expected books, newspapers, and usual library fare.  You can feel their silent presence looming over you in the silence.  In this room, I, along with the help of Paula Bundy, led groups through an investigation using the Estes Method.

Each group began with an explanation of the Estes Method.  It is a procedure in which the Spirit Box is used while one person, me in this case, is listening to it through headphones instead of the whole group listening via speaker as usual.  The listener is also blindfolded.  These precautions are taken to prevent the listener from hearing (or lip-reading) the questions being asked.  The listener then says aloud any responses heard.  Ideally, the participants then follow-up on responses to begin a dialogue with any ghosts present in the room.  Another aspect of the Estes Method is channeling.  When the listener has mediumistic abilities, the Estes Method seems to be a possible method of channeling.

All the groups also began with a discussion of the ghosts that may be encountered in the library.  The librarians at WMI have a habit of returning to their beloved building after death to continue their work.  They have even been known to assist in the search for hard to find materials from time to time.

After establishing the ground rules for the Estes Method, we began the sessions.  The transcript for each session is as follows:

Session 1, Group B

Is this your library?

What is your favorite book in the library?

T: Yes

Who is your favorite author?

T: It’s good.

What was your favorite grade in school?

What was your favorite subject in school?

Is your picture on the wall?

What topics to you like to read about?

T: They’re looking.

Who’s looking?

What are they looking at?

T: Red

What’s red?

How many are here?

Are you male or female?

T: Please.

Were you born here?

T: Bingo.

Did you work here?

What year were you born?

Were you married?

T: Trapped.

Did you have children?

T: You. You.

Do you have pets?

Do you have a brother or sister?

T: Hello.

Hello.

T: David. Photographer.

Where else should we go in this building tonight?

T: Who is it?

What did David take pictures of?

Can you make that light up?

T: Run.

Why run?

T: Girl.

Do you have a favorite room in the building?

(Traci stated she was touched on the back of the neck.)

Did you…

T: Who did?

Did you just touch Traci?

T: Weapon. (The Spirit Box stopped making noise and a male voice harshly whispered, as Traci explained to the group.)

Do you like photography?

What is a good book to read?

T: Bad.

Do you like mystery books?

T: Turn around.

Are you male or female?

What do you think of the remodel here? Renovation I guess, not remodel.

T: Here.

Yeah, in this building.

T: Shameless. Here.

You don’t like what they did to it?

T: Crystal.

Is there a poet that you like?

T: Seven.

Can you name them, or name a poem?

T: People.

What makes you feel at home here?

What kind of weapon?

T: It’s me. Mine.

What’s yours?

Were you a teacher?

T: Questions.

What questions?

T: Rain. Go.

Do you like working outside?

(Something touched back of Traci’s arm.)

Do you like the water?

T: Meg.

T: Jobs.

What was your job?

T: Haunted. What?

What was your job?

T: Can’t take it.

Did you live here?

What is your favorite holiday?

Do you like when the kids visit the library?

T: Move.

Is there a time…

T: Please don’t.

(The participant then passed, which everyone found amusing.)

Who keep touching Traci?

Are you a male or a female?

Where should be go?

T: What is that? No. Good night.

T: So.

Are you tired?

T: Ronald.

Is the library your sanctuary?

Do you feel at peace here in the library?

T: A guy.

What guy?

Who’s Ronald?

T: After. After a time.

What happened to Ronald?

Are you Ronald?

T: No.

Was your husband Ronald?

T: That’s nasty.

Did you work here?

T: Backward.

Did you own a house here?

Where is Ronald now?

T: I want. I need.

What do you need?

Do you have a car?

What would you like us to know about your life?

What would you like us to know about this library?

T: Sneaky.

Who’s sneaky?

T: Mike.

What did Mike do that was sneaky?

Do you like the librarian who is here now?

T: You. Please.

How many spirits are in here?

T: Your mouth.

Can you tell me your name?

Can you tell me my name?

Do you like coffee?

T: False.

Do you like whiskey?

T: Stop it.

What is your favorite food?

T: Nobody.

 

Discussion afterward: After we finished the session, discussed what happened.  I felt someone walking in front of me several times during the experiment, but the group confirmed that no one had moved near me.  Several participants felt strange that I looked directly towards them when it was their turn to speak.  I have no explanation for this.  It is not the first time this has happened.  One participant explained that when she started to ask a question she felt was dumb, she was interrupted by the response, “please don’t.”  We also discussed the possibility that the responses of “they’re looking” and “red” may have been in reference to the Ganzfeld experiment taking place in another room.

Before the session finished, I used the dousing rods to clarify the “weapon” response.  Their weapon is located on the second floor of the WMI.

Session 2, Group A

Since I’m a librarian here and I know some of you in here are librarians…

Traci: From scratch.

…did you like working as a librarian?

Do you like that I’m the librarian?

Did you work here for many years?

Do you like to read?

T: No. More. One more.

Did you have a favorite book?

Are there any children in here with us?

What years…

T: Mother is here.

What years were you here?

Why did you come to New Harmony?

T: I love.

Who was your favorite author in your time?

What was your favorite spot in this library?

T: What’s that? Red.

Are you the one that makes everybody feel so welcome here?

Do you like the layout of the library?

Did you help establish the Institute?

T: Midnight. Back. Backdoor.

Are you a beggar?

T: Come on. Going home.

Do you smoke?

What’s your favorite book?

Did you raise your family in New Harmony?

Were you married?

Did you have children?

How many spirits are here with us?

T: At night.

Do you like to go outside?

T: At night.

Do you walk the streets at night?

What was your favorite part of your job?

T: What? Look. He’s trying. Going.

Do you go from place to place in New Harmony?

T: Hello.

Were you here when this building was being built?

T: One.

Is this a man or a woman speaking to us?

Where is home?

T: Everything. Oh no. You want. Go.

Can you tell me who the author of Little Women is?

T: I don’t care.

Do you read Jane Austen?

Could you tell me where to find a picture of the original labyrinth?

T: A chance.

Are you a male librarian or a female librarian?

How many books are in this library?

Do you like that they have so many movies instead of books these days?

T: Anything right.

Can you tell us how many people are asking you questions?

Are you married?

Do you have children?

Where in New Harmony are the spirits most active?

T: One thing.

If you can leave here where do you go?

Are you tied to this building?

Did you come here before the Civil War?

If you’re a man, were you in the Civil War?

T: The room. Go.

Go where?

Do you visit any other places in New Harmony?

T: I can’t. Tom.

Who is Tom?

T: Yeah.

Can you leave this building?

Do you know the current director’s name?

T: Where’s that?

Do you think that we should get more books?

T: Live.

Do you enjoy reading to children?

Do you like writing?

Is your portrait hanging in this room?

Are you happy?

T: Idiot. (everyone laughs)

Are you sad?

What’s your name?

T: I was there.

Where were you?

T: I’m here. (Faint female voice, underneath white noise for the past two responses.)

What do you want us to know about you?

Is there anything you would like us to do to help you?

Why do you stay here?

Tom, are you the one in charge of all the weaponry upstairs? Did you find it?

Does it make you happy to see more people coming into the library?

T: Ride.

More children?

T: Mmmhmm

An increase in programs for children?

T: Just lock it.

Did you donate any of the items that are in here?

Are there any questions that you want to ask us?

T: Hey, Frank?

Who’s Frank?

T: Can we also have a talk? (Traci felt someone step in front of her.)

T: I’m home.

Do you live here?

Is Frank short for Francis? (Traci feels someone walking around)

T: That was me. Can be.

Do you have any brothers or sisters?

T: Did you know?

Did you know?

How many years did you work in this building?

T: No.

T: Edna?

Who’s Edna?

T: Dave.

Who’s Dave?

Are those your children’s names?

Can you move the books?

T: Help you to get home.  I used to. Sorry.

 

Discussion afterward: In our post-investigation discussion, Shannon (the current WMI librarian), said she saw a dark figure moving around at the same time I said I felt someone walking in front of me.  She also confirmed that there is an alarm that goes off sometimes at night when a back door in the basement moves.  Perhaps this is the meaning of the back door at midnight response.  As a group we discussed the abilities of some ghosts to move objects, namely books in this situation.  Shannon has experienced book being moved from shelves to tables in the night.

Session 3, Group D

Did someone earlier want to talk to Meg?

Is there anyone in here that wants…

Traci: Down there.

Did you want to talk to us tonight?

T: Hey

Hi!

T: Joni

Do you want to talk to Joni tonight?

T: You.

Do you have a question for me?

Were you a librarian?

T: Enter.

Will you talk to us?

Did you work in the building?

T: I understand. Illuminating.

What’s your name?

What’s your birthday?

Where are you from?

Are you from New Harmony?

T: I am.

Did you work in the library?

Did you go to…

T: Quiet! (Group laughs.)

Did you run a business?

What kind of job did you have in New Harmony?

Are we talking to a woman or are we talking to a man?

Did you have any children?

T: Decide.

Did you have any children?

Did your children go to the New Harmony school?

T: Man.

Do you have a favorite book?

T: Say it again.

Do you have a favorite book?

Are you a man?

T: I do.

What is your favorite book?

Do you go to other rooms or do you stay in the library?

Is there a picture of you hanging in this room?

Do you like how the room is set up now?

T: Where are you?

Are you in the library?

Do you like to watch the kids out the window from school?

Were you here when the old school was across the street?

T: America.

What year were you here?

T: Get her.

What is your name?

What is your last name?

T: Mmhmm.

T: Do it.

T: Nevermore.

Do you like Edgar Allan Poe?  We can be friends if you like Edgar Allan Poe.

Do you work in the library most days?

T: Stethoscope.

Were you married to a doctor?

Earlier I believe you said you were a man, then there was a mention of a stethoscope, could you possibly be Dr. Murphy?

T: I thought you were another one.

Did you treat any of the residents of New Harmony if you were Dr. Murphy? What types of ailments did you treat?

Were there a lot of children for you to treat?

How many children did you have?

Do you go to other buildings besides the library?

Is The Raven your favorite book?

T: Yeah

Is Edgar Allan Poe your favorite author?

Do you have a favorite author?

Can you quote another verse from The Raven?

T: Come on.

How long have you been here?

T: Heaven. Go. I see it.

Do you not want to be here?

Did you work here?

Do you have a family?

If you can see heaven can you tell us what it looks like?

T: Too close.  That’s awesome.

Do you go back and forth from heaven to here?

Did you raise chickens?

Did you live on a farm?

(Traci felt something wet on the side of her face.)

T: A secret.

What exactly is a secret?

T: Tell no one.

Tell no one? Tell no one that we spoke with you?

(Traci clarified: A male said ‘a secret.’ A female said ‘tell no one.’)

Questions for the female: Were you married to Dr. Murphy?

T: In the middle.

Were you the mistress of Dr. Murphy?

T: No.

Any relation at all to Dr. Murphy?

T: I’m happy.

Any questions for us?

Can we answer any questions for you?

What’s your secret?

Do you still read?

T: Do you?

Is that why to stay in here, to read?

T: Enough for. Eventual.

Have you read all the books in the library?

T: What he has.

Do you feel safe in the library?

T: No, stop.

Do you want to leave the library?

T: Oh, shit. Well, then.

Are you arguing with each other?

Has keeping this secret made you sad?

Can you tell us something else about the secret? Is the secret about you?

T: Hang on. It leads to me.

Were you having an affair with someone?

T: Too many.

Did you have a baby?

Were you sick and didn’t want anybody to know?

T: I’m Kevin.

Did you work in the library, Kevin?

T: Hi, hey.

Hi.

T: Meeting.

Did you live near the library?

Are you someone new?

Are you still here?

T: I’m sorry.

Back to this secret.  Was the secret about your husband?

T: It’s not…it’s not Kevin.

Was Kevin your husband?

Did you have an affair with Kevin?

I’ve lived in New Harmony for 25 years; how long did you live in New Harmony? Or did you live in New Harmony.

I walk by here all of the time walking my dogs.  Do you see me walking my dogs?

T: It’s Calvin.

I never had Calvin for a dog. Did Calvin see me walking my dogs? 2-4 at one time?

How many people are we speaking with?

T: Don’t make me.

Don’t make you do what?

T: I’m just a lad.

Are you a little boy that used to come to the library?

Are you tired of answering our questions?

T: Those.

Is the little boy still here?

Will you share your secret if we promise not to tell?

Is the secret about you?

Discussion afterward: In the discussion I explained that I began channeling Calvin.  I had initially heard the name wrong and said Kevin but was corrected.  I felt a coat on me, like an overcoat.  I am fairly certain Calvin was from the Owenite period of the New Harmony history.  He was a pre-teen boy and was afraid.  The group was very curious about the secret.  They were determined that it was an affair, but the feeling I got as a listener was that something was physically hidden.  I also let the group know that the voice that was speaking about heaven was silent immediately after talking about going.

Session 4, Group C

Can you tell us what year it is?

Traci: Maybe

Do you want to give it a try?

T: Attention. It’s me. How’d it go?

How did what go?

What’s your name?

T: I’ll tell you what. You’re talking to John.

John, is your weapon upstairs?

What did you do here, John?

Are you stuck here, John?

T: I see it. Mmmhmm.

Do you want to leave?

T: You know what?

T: Don’t do that (someone noisily moved).

Can I take a book home, John?

Would that upset you?

Did you work here?

Are you wondering what we’re all doing here?

T: Lost it. It’s typical.

Did you live here in New Harmony?

Were you married?

T: Don’t. I was there. Bright pink.

What was bright pink?

Is there a female spirit in the room? Besides John?

Do you like pickles?

T: Ask them.

What, about pickles?

Is there a librarian that would like to say ‘hi’?

John, what is your job here? What do you do?

T: Mamma. Don’t. I feel you.

John, how old are you?

Are you still here with us?

Can I take some books home, John?

What about something from the room upstairs? Would that be ok?

T: Go away from here.

T: John Smith.

Why should I go away?

Can you give us any other names?

Do you not like us here?

T: Goodnight. At ten.

What happens at ten?

(Traci felt someone walking in front of her)

Do you have any advice for us right now?

T: Please do.

Anything we could do to help you?

T: At night. He’s there.

Who is there?

T: Hey there.

Who are you talking to?

Has it been a long day for you today?

T: Go ahead. Scream.

Do you want me to scream?

Are you hanging around Traci over there, walking around?

T: Uh huh

Do you like Traci? (Traci felt footsteps again)

Do you need something from Traci?

T: I can. Every time.

Can you tell me what time it is right now? Can you tell Traci what time it is right now?

How old are you?

Can you make a noise?

Can you knock on something for us?

John, are you still in here, or is somebody else in here?

Can you make a whistle noise or some kind of other noise to let us know you’re still here? I don’t think you’re still here.

Can you tell us what year you were born?

Discussion afterward: We discussed that phrase ‘goodnight, at ten.’ It was interesting considering the event ended at ten.  Perhaps the ghosts were done with us.  This seemed to be the case as the activity wound down at the end of the night.

Conclusion

I want to thank everyone who attended. Special thanks go to Workingmen’s Institute for hosting us and to my wonderful team for their assistance and support.

(Above L-R) Joni Mayhan, Rick Schlegelmilch, Jason Nelson, Paula Bundy and Traci Hoehn

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

We had a full house for the July 27^th investigation at Community House #2 in historic New Harmony, Indiana. It was a night none of us would soon forget.

Community House #2 was built in circa 1820 by a group known as the Harmonists. Led by Reverend George Rapp, the group fled Germany, escaping religious persecution. After a ten year stint in Pennsylvania, they set their eyes on 27,000 acres of land along a bend in the Wabash River and established a town where they could set up their own community. They called their community Harmony.

The group lasted ten years, building 180 structures and laying out the town as it appears today. In 1924, they decided to move back to Pennsylvania and set up their third and final Utopian society and sold the town to a wealthy Welsh social reformer named Robert Owen. He renamed the town New Harmony.

The Owen group’s version of Utopian revolved around education, science and social reform. Unfortunately, while his group made great strides, the movement never truly took hold and Owen left the town two years later. It then settled in to become a sleepy Midwestern town with a tremendous heritage.

Community House #2 was one of four dormitory buildings the Harmonists built. The first floor would have been used for community activities and group meals, while the second and third floors would have housed single members of the group. Later, during the Owen period, the first floor would have been used for a school modeled on the Pestalozzian teaching method, with the students and teachers living in the building. During its nearly two-hundred year lifespan, Community House #2 has been the site of the A.H. Fretageot Furniture Store, as well as the home of a local doctor, a hotel, a tavern, a cigar factory, a hardware store, a tea room and a print shop where the local paper was printed. Today, it is owned by the State of Indiana Museum Sites and is used for educational and historic purposes.

With so many lives passing through the building, it’s no wonder the haunting is legendary. A woman in white has been seen multiple times, both in the windows and by guests and tour guides. Staff there often hear footsteps on vacant floors and voices calling out or having group conversations in empty rooms. Haunted New Harmony has investigated this building numerous times and has  always had interesting experiences. This investigation would prove to be no different, with a few exemptions.

We decided to liven things up and offer several experiments. We started off with the Ganzfeld Experiment, which involves sensory deprivation. Guests sat at a table with blindfolds and headphones connected to a computer playing white noise. A red lamp sat in the middle of the table. During their ten minute stint, people experienced a host of oddities.

(Above) Participants experimenting with the Ganzfeld Experiment

Our second experiment occurred on the second floor. We set up a floor length mirror in the dark hallway and invited guests to sit in front of it for five minutes. This proved to be interesting as well.

Our third experiment also happened on the second floor. Haunted New Harmony Investigator, Traci Hoehn, treated guests to the Estes Method. During this experiment, Traci wore headphones connected directly to a Spirit Box and sat blindfolded in the room as guests asked questions. A Spirit Box is a modified radio that scans the radio stations rapidly, allowing the ghosts to speak through the white noise. Because Traci was connected directly to the Spirit Box, it created a situation where she was fully tuned into the spirit world. Her third session would prove to be intense.

During the investigation, our four Haunted New Harmony investigators situated themselves on the three floors of the building. Guests, who were divided into three teams, moved from floor to floor on a half hour schedule.

First Floor Investigation

I held court on the first floor. In one room, we worked with a variety of tools to speak with the dead, while Paula Bundy managed the Ganzfeld Experiment in another room. Four guests at a time left the investigation to try the Ganzfeld before returning to the investigation.

Session 1 – Group 1

I started off the session with dowsing rods. I explained how they are used and then took a reading on the room to see who we were talking with:

• There were males and females with us
• There were five of them

I then passed the rods and let the group take turns:

• They didn’t have any children
• They didn’t go to school there
• They didn’t like the food there
• They like books
• They are from New Harmony
• They were related
• They owned a horse and buggy

We decided to use the Spirit Box. We went around the room and introduced ourselves to the ghosts in the room before we started. I had downloaded the Google Translator onto my phone and planned to ask questions in German, but as it turned out, one of our guests was fluent in German. Jamie asked a few questions. We didn’t get a single response, so we went back to using dowsing rods.

Some of the nineteenth century ghosts in the building were apprehensive about our modern electronic equipment. By using more primitive tools, such as dowsing rods or pendulums, we’ve found we get more responses.

Dowsing rods:

• One of the investigators asked the rods to point to where they were in the room and it pointed towards me and beside Brenda Wilbur. Both were spots where I was feeling/hearing ghosts, so this was interesting.
• They had children
• He was the father of the children

Second Group – Group Two

I forgot to turn off my digital recorder while we switched groups and left it running while I led the group up to their next floor. While I was gone, my recorder captured the sound of the door latch banging up and down. Meagan Patterson, who oversees the building, often hears this same latch make the same noise. The latch is on a closet door that is near the main room.

(Above) The closet door with the “ghost friendly” latch

My second group came into the room unaware that the ghosts were active already.

We started off with dowsing rods:

• We were still talking to males and females.
• There were five of them.
• There were mostly men.
• Some of them sew
• Men also sewed
• Male children didn’t sew
• Grown men didn’t sew (contradicting the first response)
• None of them were teachers
• They didn’t work at the furniture store

At that moment, the latch banged again.

• Didn’t come over on the boatload of knowledge
• They didn’t see her on the historical tour (she said they said “yes” on the 2^nd floor)
• They were there when Father Rapp was there
• One of them went to school in this room
• One of them has always stayed in this building

We decided to give the Spirit Box a try, even though we didn’t get anything with the first group. Sometimes it takes the ghost a while to warm up to it. Other times, the people in the group inspire them to respond. I left the room to check on the other groups and they started getting crazy responses.

We went around the room and didn’t get a response until someone asked if they were still there with us. “Go to hell,” a male voice with a slight twang answered.

Shortly afterwards, we captured an EVP, which is a ghost voice that we can’t hear with our ears. It didn’t come across the box, but was whispered into my digital recorder. A male voice said, “Ask me another question.”

Then, someone asked what his name was and he said, “Wes Bobbler.”

Someone else asked if they knew this building and we got another EVP. “It’s not a home,” the same male voice said.

Someone asked if they grew up here in town. The same male voice said, ”That’s correct.” It came across the Spirit Box this time.

Other questions were asked without garnering responses. As the next person was getting ready to ask a question, a young female voice called out, “New Albany.” This was interesting because four of our guests traveled from the New Albany, Indiana, area. Did someone bring their own ghost to the ghost hunt?

I rejoined the group and asked if they knew who the woman in the doorway was. Paula had just walked into the room. A friendly sounding female said, “I really like her.” The response is faint, but audible with headphones. Paula reported strange activity at her home the next morning, so she might have liked her a bit more than she was prepared for.

We went around the room a few more times, but didn’t get any further response.

Third Group – Group Three (45 minute session)

We started the session with the Spirit Box. We went around the room without getting any responses, so we moved onto dowsing rods. The ghosts in the room were quite fickle. While they were quite chatting with the second group, they snubbed the first and last group entirely.

I also pulled my Mel Meter out and turned it on. It measures electromagnetic energy spikes. It also has a built in REM pod. If a ghost breaks the beam surrounding the antenna, the lights all come on. I’d barely turned it on and put it on a table away from the group when the lights all turned on. I tried to get them to do it again but didn’t have any luck.

Dowsing rods:

• The male was still there.
• He didn’t want to talk to us on the Spirit Box.
• He’s from New Harmony
• He was there between 1800 and 1850.
• He can make the car move (I put a small toy car on the floor)
• I told her to ask “Will you push the car?” He responded with “no.”
• The investigator was running out of questions, so he held the rods and I asked the questions.
• She cooked in the building
• She had a favorite meal she liked to cook
• She wasn’t a Harmonist
• She wasn’t there during the Owen period
• She used to shop in the building when it was a store
• She had farm animals – I went through all the various animals, she finally answered yes to chickens.

I wanted to try an experiment with the Spirit Box. Sometimes when we relax and just have an interesting conversation, we can draw them in. I asked the pie question. I asked everyone to tell me their favorite kind of pie. Sometimes the ghosts chime in, but no luck this time. I went to check on the other groups and take a few photos and left them with the Spirit Box. They asked some great questions, but didn’t get any responses. We decided to move into the main room and see if we had any better luck.

Once we were in the main room where I did my presentation, we started with a Spirit Box session. We’ve had such good results with it in the past, I was determined to keep trying. As we were asking questions, I saw something move in the doorway beside the closet. I took a few photos, hoping to catch something but didn’t.

We didn’t get any responses on the Spirit Box, but something interesting happened towards the end of the session. One of our guests had a Flir thermal camera. He caught some strange cool spots on the wall, which could have indicated moisture inside the wall. I came around and snapped a photo of his camera and actually caught some crazy shadows climbing up the walls behind several of our other guests. The shadows didn’t match up with the people in front of them and there wasn’t a light source that made sense for them. Had we caught a photo of the ghosts who were hanging out with us?

(Above) A photo of Shane’s FLIR camera and strange shadows on the walls

Ganzfeld Experiment

(Above) Kathy Satterwhite from New Albany, IN, and others experiment with the Ganzfeld Experiment

The last group was entirely women. They all heard children playing and calling out. Several thought the sounds were coming from the room, so they lifted their goggles to look around, only to discover everyone was quiet in the room.

I left a notebook on the table and asked everyone to write their experiences in it. The results were quite compelling. A lot of people heard children or a woman crying. None of them had the opportunity to look at the book before they began writing.

• One person heard “I hear it” five times and heard a child crying
• She could hear a little girl. Sounded like she was playing. Then she heard a man’s voice.
• One man heard a faint sound of a woman crying in pain. He heard it three different times. He even pulled his goggles off to see if something was going on.
• One man heard a man humming and felt someone walk around his chair.
• One woman could hear a distant radio or TV playing. She felt a slight brush against her thigh that came with a temperature change. Then she heard a woman’s moan several times.
• One woman heard a kid laughing and felt footsteps. Then towards the end, she could hear a woman singing.
• One man saw a hand move at the edge of the goggles.
• Saw a red circle that was not really there
• Heard footsteps and could hear someone talking in the other room
• Heard some rhythm in the white noise, like a repeating pattern. Saw faces.
• Heard “Kathy” repeated. Heard “Help me” and whispering.
• Heard mumbling of small female and footsteps. Felt a touch on my side, like a tug on my shirt. Maybe singing?
• Kept hearing a woman singing.
• Heard either a man or baby crying, yelling.
• I felt the wire to the headphones move. I heard lots of people moving upstairs. I heard shuffling on the floor. I heard a man’s voice repeatedly. I saw the light blink.
• I heard a woman talking or singing.
• I heard a radio/TV playing and had a slight brush and temperature change on my thighs.
• I heard crying, footsteps, door slam.
• Heard woman and kids yelling/playing.
• I heard a woman in pain three times.
• I heard a man in the headphones, then I could hear a girl. It was like she was in the room right beside our table.

 

Second Floor Investigation

The second floor would have been used as a dormitory for most of the building’s existence. A long hallway divides the space, with rooms on either side. Some of the rooms are larger than others and open up into other rooms. Most of them are currently filled with artifacts from New Harmony’s history, but two rooms were cleared and available for us for the investigation.

Traci Hoehn presided over the second floor. An experienced investigator and someone with mediumistic abilities, Traci is probably the smartest person I know. She has a master’s degree in theology and is a professor at the University of Evansville. She is known by our group as the researcher. If we are investigating a location, Traci always comes prepared with historical knowledge. She also has a warped and twisted sense of humor, which makes her one of my favorite people on the planet.

Traci took on the Estes Method for her group. She wore noise-cancelling headphones that were connected directly to a Spirit Box and a blindfold, which essentially cut her off from everything around her. When she heard something come over the Spirit Box, she would call it out. People in the room were asking questions, but she couldn’t hear them. At times, the questions and answers matched up, but other times Traci began a far darker path. As the night progressed, it almost seemed as though Traci was channeling another presence and it wasn’t a very nice one. The experience in the last group left her shaken, to the point where it took her several days to recover.

Meagan Patterson, who is the Indiana State Museum Division Collections Manager, is in charge of all the State owned buildings in New Harmony. She has attended and assisted on many of our investigations and is an excellent investigator in her own right. She assisted Traci during the investigation, keeping an eye on her to make sure she was okay and to insure the session flowed smoothly.

We did a test run of the Estes Method and filmed it. If you want to get a better idea of how this works, check out the video:

First Group – Group Two

“Are you a man or a woman?”

T: A man. She’s right there. Turn.

“Are you close to one of us?”

T: Move.

“Are you alone?”

“Are you a kid?”

T: You look.

T: All right

“What’s your name?”

T: In here.

T: Certain.

“What did you do here?”

“Were you married?”

“Do you play music?”

T: Old.

T: Painful. I didn’t.

“Do you garden?”

“Is your family here too?”

T: Go away.

T: Leave.

T: uh uh (a conversation between two people)

“How many spirits are here?”

“Why are you feeling for us to leave?”

T: Your feelings.

T: I know.

T: I get it.

“Why do you stay here?”

T: Don’t.

T: I didn’t (female voice)

“What color is your hair?”

“What did you used to do for fun?”

“Did you have any brothers or sisters?”

“What is your daily routine?”

T: Who am I?

T: You (female voice)

“What’s your favorite color?”

T: uh hu

“How long did you live here?”

T: Decendent.

T: You

T: Drinking

T: Stop

“Do you have family with you now?”

“Do you like it here?”

“Do you two not get along?”

T: It’s the best

“What’s the best?”

T: I think so.

“Did you have any pets?”

“What do you want us to stop?”

“What do you want to learn about?”

“What’s your favorite song?”

T: Maybe you.

T: Can stay.

T: Night.

“Do you ever go outside?”

T: Chance (female voice)

“What are you talking about?”

“What chance?”

“Do you want someone to spend the night with you?”

T: convenient

“Did you stay on the first, second or third floor?”

T: Help me (female voice)

“How can we help you?”

“How long have you been here?”

The group came to an end and she welcomed her second group.

 

Second Group – Group Three

Traci welcomed her second group and then got started with the Estes Method once again.

“Did you run a business in this building?
T: Go!

“Did you live here?”

T: Fold

“Fold what?”

“Were you a teacher?”

“Were you a man?”

“What do you want to do?”

T: Let it (female voice)

T: That’s little

T: Oh shit! (the woman asking questions had just lost her thoughts and forgot her question, then Traci said this, making it amusing for her)

“Did you live here very long?”

“Was your family here with you?”

“Were you a student here?”

T: Maggie (female voice)

“Did you have fun or was it boring here?”

T: I’m here (female voice – she felt someone right in front her)

T: help me (very faint female voice)

“What year were you born?”

“What do you want us to help you with?”

“Is your name Maggie?”

“What do you like to do?”

T: Why? (female)

“Why?”

“What are you doing now?”

“What would you rather be doing?”

“Do you know what town we’re in?”

“Is someone hurting you?”

“Are you scared?”

T: Go on! Go on! Totally ridiculous!

“Do you like it here?”

T: Go on!

“Do you feel safe?”

T: Who couldn’t?

“Did you enjoy the outside?”

“Are there any children in here?”

“What kind of food did you eat?”

“Can you tell us your name?”

“When did you live here?”

“What year is it?”

T: Here

T: Mercy

T: You

“Who is Maggie?”

T: Go!

“To the female: were you downstairs earlier?”

“Has anyone we can’t see left the room since we’ve been here?”

T: Hi (female voice)

T: Honey

T: Stand

“Did you live here in this room? Is this where you slept?”

“Were you out in the hallway with me earlier?”

“Can you see how many of us are standing?”

T: He. Knows.

“Knows what?”

T: Make this. Unseen.

T: Once

“Can someone help you?”

T: Yeah. Absolutely (Seconds earlier, Meagan asked if someone wanted to go out to the mirror experiment)

T: I want to see

“What do you want to see?”

“What did you used to do in the summertime?”

T: Ooooh

“Were you a nurse?”

“Were you a teacher?”

“Were you in an accident? Did you get hurt?”

T: I don’t want to.

“Don’t want to do what?”

T: What’s that? People?

“Are you safe?”

“What are you thinking about right now?”

“who is Maggie?”

“What did you like to do for fun?”

T: We are. Tricked.

T: I know (someone just said “pass”)

“You know what?”

“Is someone with you?”

“What was your favorite game?”

T: Yeah. I heard you.

“Where was your favorite hiding spot?”

T: therapy

“Did that make you feel safe?”

T: Uh oh

“Do you feel better now?”

“Are you a child?”

T: problem

“Problem child?”

“Are you an adult?”

“Are you in the room with us right now?”

“Where are you standing?”

“Did you grow your own….”

T: Victory. You know (accusatory tone)”

“Did you raise farm animals?”

“We know what?”

“Is there anything we need to know?”

T: Let’s go for a walk

“Where do you want to walk to?”

The half hour ended, so they stopped the session.

 

Third Group – Group Three

Traci’s third group seemed like they had experiences on every floor. We talked afterwards, wondering if one of them might have brought their own ghost to the ghost hunt. She introduced herself, explained the process and got started.

“Hello (in German)”

“Are you in here with us?”

“How many people sleep in here at a time?”

“Who is wearing the headphones?”

“Did you sleep in this room?”

“Did you have family that lived with you?”

“Have you ever had your picture taken with a camera?”

“Are you the one who makes the floor shake under me?”

“Have you lived…”

T: hi. Oh my!

“Are you a female?”

“Are you a male?”

“Did you travel here from Pennsylvania?”

“Did you stay here when this was a hotel?”

“Is German your native language?”

T: So?

“Were you born in this building?”

“Were you born in this town?”

“Where are you from?”

T: It’s good (female voice)

“Did you come here from the river?”

T: Hi. It’s him! (female voice)

“Did you enjoy reading?”

“Did you enjoy working in the garden?”

“You said, “He’s here.” who is he?”

T: At 2 o’clock. All month. You are.”

“Do you mean I am he?”

T: At 2 o’clock. All month.

“What is at 2 o’clock?”

T: You’ll meet someone

“Who are you going to meet?”

T: Stop it!

T: see him (female voice)

“Who do you want me to see?”

“How old are you?”

“Did you work with the printing department here?”

“Did you work in this building?”

T: Progress (female voice)

“Did you cook?”

“Did you clean here?”

“What are your hobbies?”

“What do you do for fun?”

“Can you tell me your name?”

T: The thing is…I can see.

“Can you see me?”

“what can you see?”

“What’s the progress you talked about?”

“Are you able to vote?”

T: I am!

“What do you vote for?

T: here

“To stay here?”

T: You

“Me, what?”

“Are you a farmer?”

T: Go!

“Go where?”

T: Never!

T: Avoid

“What do you want to avoid?”

T: Get you!

“Get who?”

“Do you remember my name?”

“Who was in front of the mirror in the hall?”

“What is the name of the lady sitting in this room?”

T: Switch

“How many spirits are in this room with us?”

T: Don’t want it

“What don’t you want?”

T: You gonna charge me? (female voice)

T: Sorry

“What are you sorry for?”

T: in Evansville (female voice)

“Are you a female?”

“Have you seen me in here yesterday?”

“What’s in Evansville?”

T: They knew!

T: Rabbit

“Is that for a pet?”

T: Love (female)

“Do you have a boyfriend? Is he in Evansville?”

“Can you tell me my name?”

“Can you tell me what city I live in?”

T: I want it. Get it!

“What do you want me to get?”

“Do you have children?”

T: Uh oh

“Did someone drop something?”

T: No good! Yes it is! (female)

T: No! (male)

“Did you drive a car?”

T: Uh huh

“What’s your favorite time of the year?”

“Do you know Mary down the street?”

T: Me? (female)

“Do you live down the street?”

T: Sour. Oh man!

“Are you a child?”

T: Do it!

“Is your dad here?”

“Are you Mary?”

T: First

T: I don’t

Traci’s phone started ringing, so they nudged her. It was her alarm for medications. She took a small break and they discussed how it sounded like the ghosts were having a conversation. Traci took a minute to recover because it’s very draining. We’ve decided going forward that we’re going to have someone alternate with Traci so she doesn’t have to do it all alone.

“Did you ever jump on the beds here when you would play?”

T: So?

“Can you jump on the beds now?”

T: All right

T: I think mine

“Which bed are you jumping on?”

“Is it your bed or your sister’s bed?”

“Can you guide me to which bed is yours?”

“Do you remember seeing me yesterday on the tour?”

T: No

“Were there a lot of…”

T: Cry

“Did you come from a big family?”

“Are you happy here?”

“How old are you?”

T: Aren’t you? (female)

“Who else are you talking to?”

T: Think! (female)

“Is it your brother?”

“Is it your father?”

“Did you wear shoes or go barefoot?”

“Have you ever..”

T: Bitch!

T: Her

“Do you like to fish?”

T: Ah, It’s your female. She said to fucking kill her

“Who’s going to kill her?”

“Do you like pickles?”

“Or sauerkraut?”

T: ha ha (deep male voice)

“Did you like that? Was that funny?

T: Yeah. Find me (female voice)

“Right now? Wanna play hide and seek?”

“Maybe later, okay?”

“Did you…”

T: Over there (or hold her there)

“Were you an early riser in the mornings?”

“Did you like playing outside?”

T: No (really faint female voice)

“Are you the man of this house or just some other guy?”

“Do you let the women run the house?”

“Are you still with us?”

T: Letter

“Can you make a noise for us?”

“Can you move anything for us?”

“Where should I look to find you?”

T: He

“He…what?”

T: He did it

“What did he do?”

T: I’m stuck (male voice)

“Can you explain how you’re stuck?”

“Do you want to leave this building?”

“Are you the one I saw in the mirror?”

T: I’m here

“What is your name?”

“What is your purpose here in this building?”

“Did you have brothers and sisters?”

“Where did you come from before you settled here?”

Paula came in at that point to tell them it was time to end the session.

Traci wrote of her experience during the third session. Here it is in her own words:

Traci’s Estes Experience

The night with the Estes Method started very much as expected for me.  Much like our trial run, I was getting mostly male voices in the beginning.  The words seemed to be benign and I wasn’t sensing much at the beginning of the night.  After the first twenty minutes or so, I started hearing a random scream from a woman every now and again.  It was a scream of terror.  I didn’t note it aloud, as I didn’t want to alarm the participants.  This was soon joined by a growling voice occasionally.  I believe it is the same voice captured on the first floor.  I could never make out what he was saying, but the tone and aggression told me enough about the meaning.  Again, I didn’t make this because until I heard the recording from the first floor, I wasn’t even sure it was a voice.  It just sounded like a growl.

As the night wore on, the female voice spoke more often.  She always seemed to speak with intention and some urgency.  There was a pleading tone to her voice.  As you can tell from the recording and transcript, most of the words from the female voice (which all seemed to be the same voice) were concerned with a particular man.

Before we get to the major incident, there were three interesting phenomena that occurred throughout the sessions.  The first is that the ghosts seemed to be speaking to one another at several points throughout the sessions.  I got the feeling that they did not care or were not concerned with the questions being asked by the participants.  I was merely acting as the reporter to their private conversations.  The second phenomenon what that there seemed to be a male voice speaking throughout the evening just below the static of the Spirit Box.  I couldn’t make out what he was saying over the din, but the voice was nearly always present.  It was calm and methodical, almost a sermon-like cadence.  The last matter was that of my earmuffs vibrating.  It only affected the left side and happened several times.  The best way I can describe it is that it was like the vibration that would come from sitting next to a train.  However, I was sitting next to Meagan and the fireplace.  I could feel nothing with me hand nor did Meagan feel anything when I asked her after each session.

By the time the third session came around, I was in the rhythm of the Estes Method, attuned to the Spirit Box, and acclimated to the strangeness the evening had brought so far.  The pleading female voice and an aggressive male voice had made their presence known to me, as can be gathered from the recording. After our unscheduled break due to my medicine alarm, it felt strange when I put the headphones and blindfold back on.  I don’t if it was because I relaxed more since I knew we just had fifteen minutes left or if the night had been leading to this, but I suspect it was a little of both.

When I heard the male aggressive yell, “Bitch!” I saw a flash of his angry face in front of me.  He had a mustache and mutton chops, but they weren’t well groomed.  His nose had been broken at some point and healed badly. He was disheveled, and his clothes has some stains.  He’s tall with a bowler/derby hat, dark pants, and a dark vest.  The cloths were kind of shabby like he is a worker.  I think he had been drinking.  This is when the woman yelled back, “Fucking killer!”  I didn’t see her.  I think I was seeing through her.  I wasn’t feeling her full emotions and didn’t feel like she was inhabiting me, but I was seeing the scene through her eyes.  I knew the information from her. She wasn’t scared of him.  She was defiant.  This amused him, and he laughed a menacing, “Ha ha.”  He easily overpowered her and strangled her.  That is what the “hold her there” and the faint female voice saying “no” are about.  I didn’t see anything after this but neither did she and she was the one showing me.

Here is what I could intuit from the scene and have been able to better articulate since:  I am fairly certain she was a prostitute he frequented.  He killed someone she was close to, and she found out.  He had gotten away with the murder by disposing of the body and killed her because she would turn him in.  I feel he disposed of her as well.  I keep feeling water, like he tossed her in the river.

While I do think there is a good possibility that someone brought this here with them, I can’t help but think of our trial run.  Crystal kept grabbing her throat saying she couldn’t breathe when we were sitting in the same area. I asked Meagan as soon as the people walked out of the room if that area had ever been rented out as rooms like a hotel, and she confirmed.  It just felt too real in that space.

We thank Traci for braving this for us.

Psychomanteum

Guests had the opportunity to attempt mirror scrying. In this experiment, we placed a floor-length mirror in the dark second floor hallway and invited people to sit in front of it for several minutes. Unfortunately, I didn’t have a book available for them to record their experiences, but I did learn about a few of them.

Most people saw their faces morphing into other faces. For some, it was a frightening experience. Here’s what others experienced:

• Heard tapping on fireplace
• Saw a man with a mustache
• Heard people walking on the stairs
• Saw something flit behind them quickly

 

Third Floor Investigation – Main Room

The third floor of the building was primarily used for dormitory-style housing. Community House #2 was the only community house that offered a third floor thanks to the Mansard roof, which gave it additional space. Visitors to the space will notice the open wall, displaying the “Dutch Biscuit” style building material. Mud and straw would have been wrapped around boards and placed in between the beams, providing the building with insulation and protection from fire. The floors in the room are the original floors from when the building were built.

Crystal Folz, our resident psychic medium managed the third floor. She was born in Western Kentucky and now resides in Posey County. She has been working with search and rescue for over twenty years, helping find lost people using her psychic skills. Crystal’s groups always enjoy her easy manner and her quirky sense of humor. She brings a calmness to our investigations that is always essential and we’re so happy to have her on our team.

First Group – Group Three

She started out with a dowsing rod session.

• She is a female
• They saw her during the historical tour the previous day
• They had pets
• The also saw the other lady there the previous day
• Not a female
• Is not above the age of 15
• Is below the age of 5
• Christmas is his favorite time of the year
• He/she still lives in the house
• There are others there with him/her
• He/she enjoys living on the third floor
• She is female
• She had a garden outside
• They were also talking to a male
• There were between 2-5 people there
• Liked to make pottery

Crystal was splitting the third floor with Jason Nelson. They would do fifteen minute sessions and then switch groups.

• Was an employee in the building
• Had a family
• Was married
• Had children

Second Group – Group One

• Worked in the building
• They like it there
• He/she used to stay there
• Wasn’t there for a long time
• Not a child
• Not a female
• Didn’t like working in the print shop
• His name is Nick (known as a prankster. We’ve connected with him many times before)
• He liked it there

Switched Groups with Jason.

• They were talking to a male
• They were also talking to a female
• He’s happy
• His parents lived there
• They were also talking to a female
• When they asked if they could move the ball, the light on the KII meter flickered

Third Group – Group Two

Crystal’s third group was in for a big surprise. They would have something happen in their group that would literally shut down the third floor afterwards. Half her group went into the Printer’s room with Jason and half of them stayed with her. They started the dowsing rod session:

• One of them was standing next to them
• They asked the rods to point to where they were standing – the rods didn’t respond
• They don’t like it there
• They find it creepy there at night
• They were talking to a young child (Crystal noted that everyone who sat in the same chair connected with a child.)
• They were also talking to a woman (same side of the room where people have connected with a woman)
• Has a large family

They were having a difficult time getting responses. They went around several times without getting a response. Crystal suggested there might be another ghosts there who was preventing them from talking, so she had them ask. The rods didn’t respond. Jamie, who speaks German, attempted to ask them a few questions in German, but didn’t get any responses.  It was strange for Crystal because the rods had been very responsive all night. The rods would vibrate, but wouldn’t move in either direction. They asked again if someone was preventing them from responding and finally got a response of “yes.”

Four people from Crystal’s group went into the Print Shop with Jason and four people from his group joined her group.

They continued to have issues until the rods finally answered that someone was preventing them from answering.

• The ghost was gone who was stopping them
• They wanted to talk to the group
• There were children there (same chair as the last few people who got the same response)

They decided to merge the groups together and conduct a Spirit Box session.

Someone saw movement in the laser grid, so they began keeping an eye on that area of the room to see if something else broke the light pattern.

They were asking questions when all of a sudden a loud cracking sound filled the room. It was enough that they almost left the third floor in fear the ceiling was coming down. They began looking around and discovered one of the posts that holds up the ceiling cracked from top to bottom.

The Spirit Box was quiet but the dowsing rods began working again. Listening to the responses that were recorded, I couldn’t make out most of the responses because the Spirit Box was so loud. Below are the ones I could make out.

• They liked to play games
• There was an older man with them.
• He was hiding on the other side of the room.
• They asked for the rods to point to where he was standing and they pointed to the area where they saw movement.

 

Third Floor Investigation– Print Shop

Jason Nelson led the investigation of the old print shop on the third floor. Jason has been an investigator for Haunted New Harmony for several years, assisting on investigations and ghost walks. He is a resident of New Harmony and was instrumental in helping me gain access to the State owned buildings. His style is more straightforward and to the point. He describes himself as a skeptic, but has seen enough paranormal activity to make him a “skeptical believer.”

The print shop contains equipment from the original print shop that operated in the building during 1858 until 1932.  Known as the Slater Print Shop, several local newspapers, including The New Harmony Register and The Advertiser were printed in the shop and were edited by Charles Slater and subsequently by his son, Harry “Nick” Slater. The shop was closed in 1932 when it was sold to Mary Emily Fauntleroy, who many will recognize from our Fauntleroy Home Investigations. The entire building was sold to the State of Indiana in 1940.

First Group – Group Three

Jason had technical difficulties and couldn’t get the Spirit Box turned on, so they spent the fifteen minute session chatting about other haunted locations they’ve all investigated.

Next group of people from Group Three

Crystal had the magic touch and got the Spirit Box to work for him, so they were off and running.

They introduced themselves and then started the Spirit Box session. They started out the session by asking if anyone was with them. A voice said, “Want to.”

Another investigator asked if he or she was married. A voice responded, “That is so.”

They went around the room, asking more questions. It wasn’t until someone asked if his or her mama was a good cook that someone answered with a “no.”

Next group of people from Group Three

Someone asked if Nick followed them from the other room. A male voice said, “When he says it.” They asked more questions, but didn’t get any further responses.

The next group came in and got started. “Do you work in the print shop?” someone asked. A creepy voice instructed her to “turn around.”

Someone else asked if they listen to music and a faint voice said, “I hear it.”

“Did you play an instrument?” The response was odd. “I found it.”

Second Group – Group One

The second group arrived and Jason led them through another Spirit Box session. As they were introducing themselves, Jason said he hoped someone would talk to them during the session. A male voice instantly said, “probably.”

Someone asked what his favorite color was and he responded with “yellow.”

They went around the room a few times and did get a few responses, but none of them were clear enough to interpret.

The next group came in and they continued with the session. They went around the room without getting any responses. Finally, someone asked if they got breaks and a male voice told her, “kind of.” The session was over before they knew it and the next group came in.

The lights had been flickering all night while they were in the Print Shop. Jason noted it.

Someone asked if they had any children. There was a response, but I couldn’t quite make it out. It almost sounded like “super.”

Someone then asked if they spoke German in German and we got a response. I had to send it to Jamie Hettenbach-Barchett who attended the investigation and is fluent in German. She said it sounds like “ja” which is pronounced “yah” and means “yes.”

Conclusion

We gathered together at the end to compare notes on the investigation. Everyone from the last group on the second floor was buzzing about Traci’s experience with the Estes Method. I showed everyone the picture I just took of Shane’s thermal camera with the strange shadows on the wall.  Jason mentioned having a lot of lights flickering on the third floor and the odd cracking sound. Crystal talked about how the rods were vibrating but wouldn’t move. She felt someone was preventing them from answering. She also noted that everyone who sat in a specific chair got a response from a child. I told them how I didn’t get anything on the Spirit Box until I walked away to check on the other groups. Then, they had a male coming through chatting with them. As soon as I came back, they instantly stopped talking. Someone else talked about how cool the Estes Method was and how they got the name “Maggie.” They were also excited about what they heard on the Ganzfeld Experiment. I asked them to raise their hands if they had an experience with it and at least half the group raised their hands. They talked about what a soldier Traci was for doing the Estes Method. It was definitely a difficult situation for her and she provided us with interesting information about the building that we weren’t aware of. They also loved the mirror gazing experiment. Most people saw their own faces morphing, but several people saw something coming up behind them. Almost everyone had some sort of experience during the night. Ben noted that at the beginning of the night, during my presentation, he felt a small hand touch his leg. He was standing in the doorway near the closet where Meagan often hears the door handle giggle.

People also talked about how a lot of them heard children talking during the Ganzfeld without realizing everyone else had similar experiences. One thing we do know is that Dr. Edward Murphy and his wife lived in Community House #2 and lost all seven of their children at various times.

I want to thank everyone for coming out for the investigation and special thanks to my amazing team for helping me pull it all together.

(Above L-R) Joni Mayhan, Crystal Folz, Traci Hoehn, Jason Nelson, Paula Bundy and Meagan Patterson

To learn more about New Harmony’s history and hauntings, check out my book, Haunted New Harmony, available at local New Harmony stores and on Amazon.com by clicking HERE

 

 

The Culbertson Mansion is located in New Albany, Indiana, near the banks of the mighty Ohio River. It was built in 1867 by William Culbertson, who was the richest man in Indiana at one point. Culbertson built the house for his second wife Cordelia (Nellie) and lived there with her, their children and his children from his first marriage until Nellie’s death in 1880 of cholera.

In 1884, Culbertson married Rebecca Keith, who was 38 years old. William Culbertson died in 1892 due to complications of the flu. The house was sold for $7,100 to the McDonald Family in 1899 at auction. The house remained in the McDonald family until it was purchased by the American Legion in 1945 and was used by them for functions and meetings until Historic New Albany purchased the house in 1964.

The house is quite lavish. At 20,000 square feet, it has 25 rooms, hand-painted frescos on many of the ceilings, complete with gold leaf, marble fireplaces and fifteen foot doors. It gives the word opulence new meaning.

This was Haunted New Harmony’s fourth public investigation of the mansion. Every time we’ve visited, we’ve been amazed by the paranormal responses. The ghosts there are willing and eager to communicate with us, something we discovered before the event even started.

As we were waiting for the first guests to arrive, two Haunted New Harmony staff members were standing by the front door. Rick Schlegelmilch and Traci Hoehn heard a sound and turned to discover the doorknob jiggling. They thought that someone was trying to get in, so they opened the door and were surprised to find the entryway empty.

After the guests arrived, we gave a brief presentation on the history and hauntings of the mansion, as well as a demonstration of the dowsing rods. Because we’ve had tremendous results with the rods in past investigations, we wanted to use them again.

The group broke into three smaller groups and began investigating their assigned floors. Joni Mayhan was the First Floor investigator, while Crystal Folz managed the Second Floor and Traci Hoehn oversaw the Third Floor. Rick Schlegelmilch managed the Ganzfeld Experiment in the basement.

First Floor

First Group (Group 1)

The first floor of the mansion would have been where the Culbertsons received their guests. The area consists of a formal dining room, an informal dining room, an informal parlor, Mr. Culbertson’s den and several rooms in the back that were used by the servants. We initially set up in the formal dining room, but found ourselves moving to the informal parlor midway through the investigation. Both rooms provided us with ample activity, but the informal parlor was especially active that night.

We started in the formal dining room with a dowsing rod session:

• They aren’t comfortable with one member of the group
• Not a woman
• They will be communicating with us tonight
• They like the home
• They think the home is beautiful
• They won’t be revealing themselves to us
• They aren’t in any of the pictures in the house
• Doesn’t like dark, stormy nights

One man began asking qualifying questions, attempting to validate the authenticity of the dowsing rods. My impression was that he was testing the system, something the ghosts also picked up on. If they feel as though they are being tested, they probably won’t respond. I asked the man if he was a skeptic and he denied it, but I don’t think the ghost hunt was what he was expecting.

I believe a lot of people are surprised by what actually happens during a real paranormal investigation. If you watch ghost shows on TV, you’re probably in for an underwhelming experience. We don’t chase demons down hallways and couches seldom fly across the room. If we’re lucky, we will see a shadow move, smell a phantom odor or feel a ghostly touch, but that is usually the extent of our experiences. Our goal is to communicate with them and to learn something about their story, their history. Sometimes this process is slow and methodical. It isn’t normally fast-paced and exciting.  The man and his guest left during break, so I’m guessing it wasn’t what he wanted.

The next person took the rods and had much better results.

• She was talking to a woman (something I also felt)
• She was willing to communicate with us.

I sent the first group down to the basement to experiment with the Ganzfeld Experiment, which is a sensory deprivation experience. Participants wear white goggles and sit around a table with a red lamp, wearing headphones that play white noise. They sit for ten minutes to see what they experience. During the night, everyone who attended had an opportunity to use them. I’ll include a complete reporting at the end of this section about what they experienced.

We put away the dowsing rods and used the Spirit Box. A Spirit Box is basically a modified radio that scans through the stations rapidly. Ghosts are able to use the white noise to communicate. Because we were so close to the Louisville area, we pick up a plethora of radio stations. With this in mind, I build a Faraday Pouch for each Spirit Box we used at the event.

A Faraday Pouch is a pretty basic contraption. I used aluminum foil and duct tape to build a small pouch to put the Spirit Box inside of. As hoped for, it blocked out a lot of the radio stations, allowing us to be more confident in the responses we heard.

I had the group introduce themselves, which is something we always do during investigations. We have to remember that we are in their house. Just because we can’t see them doesn’t mean they aren’t there and we can be rude to them. As soon as we finished, I asked what they’re names were. A man answered “Paul.”

Other Spirit Box responses:

Did you live here in the 1800’s? “I didn’t”

 

Did you live here in the 1900’s? “I did”

Paul, did you have children? “Pool party!”

Are you with us, Paul? “I’m Denny.”

We asked a few more questions but didn’t get a lot of responses. We went back to dowsing rods for a bit.

• Paul was with us
• Someone else was with us – it was a female
• Paul worked in the building – slow yes
• He got paid to work

We turned the Spirit Box back on because several people had been doing the Gansfeld Experiment and didn’t hear it.

What was your name? “Satan” At the time, I thought it said Steven, which encouraged everyone to talk to “Steven.” Upon review, it’s definitely “Satan.” I’m confident that Satan wasn’t there with us. I believe that one of the ghosts in the house was having fun with us, knowing this response would create pandemonium (if properly interpreted)

Is Paul with you, Steven? “That’s who I am.”

As I walked the next group to the basement door to do the Ganzfeld Experiment, I encourage the group to keep asking questions. At that moment, an older woman with a lisp came through and said, ”The time is over soon.”

Someone asked about the female with him. I believe they meant to ask, “What is the name of the female here with you?” The response was, “The spirit?”

Is the female with you your wife? “Irene”

Did you live in New Albany? “Muncie”

They began talking about various servants who worked in the house. They asked about Mary Louise, wondering if she had a heart condition. A male voice confirmed this with, “She did.”

 

Second Group (Group 3)

The group had just spent an hour on the third floor and were eager for more intrigue. We started out with a dowsing rod session:

• We weren’t talking to a female
• He was under 10 years old – we had a hard time nailing this down and weren’t sure if it was even accurate
• He didn’t like art or music
• His hair isn’t brown
• He liked going to school
• Doesn’t like to dance, sing or read
• He likes nursery rhymes, candy, parties and trick-or-treating (trick-or-treating was first done in the US in 1927)
• He can see Joe and was standing behind him

Spirit Box: We had a lot of random blurps, but weren’t really getting anything clear.

• What is your name? “Eleven”
• What was your favorite toy? “Drum”

I finally turned off the Spirit Box and began talking to the ghosts about moving on. I think it’s important to let them know they aren’t trapped in place – that they can move on to Heaven. I talked to them for a while, but didn’t feel anyone cross over.

We decided to change rooms and went into the informal parlor. We turned on the Spirit Box in there and began getting more responses.

How do you feel about the volunteers being here? “It’s good.”

Would you rather have chocolate cake or vanilla cake? “Vanilla”

I left the room to check on the Ganzfeld Experiment, so someone asked, “Where is Joni right now?” A male voice said, “I’m insulted.”

Someone asked how many ladies were in the room. A male voice answered correctly. “Six,” he said.

We really weren’t getting much on the Spirit Box. We went around the room several times and didn’t get any clear responses, so we turned it off. At that point, one of the volunteers mentioned that she wears an insulin pump and the batteries were already drained. They usually last much longer. She went to get her second pack and discovered that it was also drained. I explained to the group that ghosts often draw energy from batteries and from the living. I hadn’t noticed any substantial battery drain on my equipment, but it was interesting to hear.

Dowsing rods:

• There was a female in the room
• Her name was Nellie (Cornelia Culbertson’s nickname)
• She doesn’t mind that we aren’t dressed formally in her dining room
• She isn’t okay with the way women dress today
• Women shouldn’t wear shorts.
• They should wear clothing that covers their legs
• I asked the rods to point to where she stood and they pointed to the area by the piano, where I was hearing her
• It wasn’t her piano (later confirmed)
• Her piano was much nicer
• She didn’t play the piano
• She was in love with her husband – slow yes
• She was a teacher
• She had children
• She had troubles with Mr. Culbertson’s children
• She had problems with one in particular: Charlie
• Charlie was sometimes disrespectful with the staff
• Charlie sometimes chased after some of the female staff
• She had a lot of parties there
• She doesn’t mind that so many volunteers are there all the time
• She didn’t know that her daughter fought for the right for women to vote
• She doesn’t like how her house looks now
• She likes the walls and ceiling renovations
• She likes the fence that goes around the yard
• She doesn’t like how her house looks during Christmas
• She didn’t pick the purple in the ceiling
• She doesn’t wish the house had her same furnishings
• She does wish they had nicer furniture

Third Group (Group 2)

My third group had their own EMF meters which were going off continually. I tend to ignore them when they flicker constantly because it usually is due to electric lines or Wi-Fi floating through the room. They reported that they’d been having this issue all night. The devices they were using were Ghost Meters, which I’ve found to be less effective than more expensive models like the KII or Mel Meters. I had a Ghost Meters for several years and ended up giving it away because it provided far too many false positive results.

Joining us for our last session was Jessica, who oversees the building and all of it’s events. Jessica has a wealth of knowledge about the mansion and the people who lived there, so we were excited to have her with us.

We started out with dowsing rods in the informal parlor:

• Nellie was still with us
• She was enjoying what we were doing
• She didn’t wish we’d done anything differently
• She liked because we were asking her questions
• She’s not happy with the furniture. It’s not as upscale as she’s like. Jessica said she loved blue satin. She had it on everything.
• The front bedroom wasn’t hers with blue walls
• She didn’t share a bedroom with her husband
• Her bedroom was the rose room (master bedroom)
• Couldn’t get an answer about where Mr. Culbertson slept
• The closet on the third floor was a punishment closet – slow yes, meaning it might have been a bit more than just that
• She’s happy with the work they’re doing – slow yes
• The walls aren’t painted like they were when she was there
• No answer when they asked if she ever saw a ghost
• Her first husband Dudley is not there with her now
• Maryann isn’t there
• Frank was there when Brice was at the mansion
• She doesn’t like it when Frank smokes in the house
• Ann is there too
• Blanche isn’t there
• She didn’t have a very good time there
• One of the volunteers asked if she recognized her and she did
• She doesn’t mind what they do in the carriage house, but doesn’t find it amusing.
• She tolerates it because it brings the house back to its former glory
• She didn’t enjoy all of her time in the house
• She wouldn’t want them to paint the walls blue
• There are kids there
• She wasn’t lonely there
• That wasn’t her when they were doing the Estes on the third floor
• She used to choose the flowers the maid on the third floor brought in
• There aren’t any animals there
• She doesn’t go out to the carriage house
• She liked to read – slow yes
• She was in the room with us right then
• I asked for the rods to point to where she was in the room. The rods pointed to the same place beside the piano.
• She knows what happened to her portrait
• It was stolen by someone on staff and they still have it
• They no longer work there
• She doesn’t know where they are
• It was a male who stole it
• Jessica asked a few names and it said no and then said yes when she got to the person it was. He apparently did bad things there.
• They didn’t have any indoor pets, but through a series of questions we learned that there was a cat in the basement. A servant would let it in. Jessica was curious because they’ve never seen any reference to pets at the mansion. My impression was that she wouldn’t put up with pets in the house because they created messes.
• Jessica was there before in another life. She wasn’t a Culbertson. She wasn’t a maid – slow no.
• One of the volunteers asked if she knew if she was getting her promotion. The rods said no, which meant she didn’t know.
• There are negative energies there
• The negative energy is on the third floor (confirmed by the Estes Method) in Josephine’s room. The energy is male. Someone asked if it was someone she knew and it went from yes to no to yes to no. He didn’t come in while she lived there or during the American legion period.
• She was upset that the American Legion changed the entire house
• Nellie hasn’t been there the entire time. I explained that if she was upset by what was going on, she might have gone back to somewhere else she was once happy and then came back once the renovations started. She wasn’t there when the American Legion owned it.
• She wasn’t the only one in the room.
• They weren’t all from the home. Some came in with others in the room. She asked if the rods could point to where the other entities are and the rods pointed towards the person who asked the question. It came in with the woman. She didn’t know the ghost in life. Mrs. Culbertson can’t get rid of it. It is benevolent though. It hasn’t always been with her.
• The next person asked if the ghost was standing behind her and the rods pointed towards her. It was a male. It came with the woman beside her.
• There are more than two ghosts in the room. She asked where they were standing and the rods divided and pointed in two directions. There weren’t more than three.
• Pets can follow people in the afterlife
• She was well educated
• The ghost in the corner was female. She wasn’t a servant. It wasn’t Maryann. She wasn’t a McDonald. It wasn’t a child. She wasn’t a seamstress. She was a cook. Her name was Clarissa. Jessica explained that Clarissa was the daughter of a slave but was born free in Indiana. Jessica was curious about her sleeping arrangements so we began asking questions. Clarissa confirmed that she had segregated sleeping arrangements. She slept out in the wood house. She was happy with the Blue Banquet (a benefit dinner Jessica hosted recently that used many of Clarissa’s menus). She knew about it.  She didn’t like Rebecca “Keith” Culbertson. She wasn’t happy about how she treated Blanche but she was happy with how Blanche treated Keith. Jessica said they didn’t get along. Blanche was with Clarissa when she passed away.

We decided to try the Spirit Box for a few minutes.

We asked if Clarissa was the only person of color in the mansion and got a few responses we couldn’t quite make out. Then someone said, “You’re a child.”

 

I caught a strong whiff of old fashioned perfume. It almost smelled like potpourri

I asked if there was any particular food they missed. A male voice said, “chocolate shake.”

Did anyone abide in alcohol? “I did.” Jessica told the group that she found a letter about how Anne and Sam snuck liquor up to the second floor when they were youngsters.

Are there any pranksters in the family? “Boys”

Talking about Sam lighting the wood shed on fire. “They probably could.”

Sam burning down the wood house. “He liked it.”

Did Sam get in trouble? “Gives him more fight.”

 

Ganzfeld Experiment

During my first floor investigations, I sent groups of 3 down to the basement, where Rick Schlegelmilch was overseeing the Ganzfeld Experiment. This sensory deprivation experience involves participants sitting around a table, wearing goggles and headphones that are plugged into a laptop that’s playing white noise. A red lamp in the middle of the table completes the experiment. Many people who have tried this have tapped into dormant psychic medium tendencies, allowing them glimpses of images, sounds and smells. Several people felt ghostly touches. After they rose from their chairs after ten minutes, Rick asked them to write their experiences in a notebook. Here is what they wrote:

• Saw a piece of broken pottery – black and gold circles
• The light went from bright to several shades darker
• Felt speedy heart and also a flicker of light a couple times
• Felt coldness on my face (constant)
• My papaw was with me
• Cool breeze, train and falls like Niagara
• Appeared to have a face and eye kept appearing
• Heard a 2 snap noise in my left ear. Kinda strange.
• I saw flashes, almost as if someone took a photo. There were multiple tapping noises and the sound of a very low voice.
• Felt cold air. Sounded like someone stomping, playing with my fingers.
• Felt surrounded by warm peaceful feelings. Heard background noise on left side.
• Footsteps to left. Light throbbing. Felt someone behind me. He was close enough to touch me but didn’t.
• Very bright blue lights and noise the whole time.
• Lots of fingers running through my head.
• Gentle touch on head, back right side of skull. Cold air in front of my face, put my hand in front of my face and it was still cold air on my face. A thought came to mind. Something about not being treated like anyone else. No one treats us like anyone else.
• First heard a bunch of screaming, and in many people screaming, like in pain. Then near the end, my stomach started to feel sick.

Second Floor

Crystal Folz, who is our group’s psychic medium, managed the investigation on the second floor. Those rooms would have been bedrooms during the Culbertson and McDonald eras. When they owned it, the American Legion removed one of the walls and turned a portion of the second floor into a billiards hall. Guests on the second floor often smell cigar smoke, which they believe comes from Frank Semple, who was married to Culbertson’s daughter Anna and lived in the mansion for many years.

 First Group (Group 2)

The first group settled in and Crystal explained how the session would go. Even though she’s a psychic medium, she stays closed down psychically during the investigation so she can stay focused on the guests. They started with a dowsing rod session.

Dowsing Rod Sessions Highlights:

• There weren’t any cars there
• They were talking to a female
• She was born in the house
• There were no other ghosts with them
• There were pets at the mansion
• There is a dog in the house
• There were more than four of them in the room
• The female had a favorite dress she liked to wear
• The head maid Josephine was there
• She once scared a policeman and thought it was a funny prank

They switched rooms and did a Spirit Box session. They got some blurps on the machine, but didn’t receive any clear responses. While they were doing the session, they noticed a wild temperature fluctuation. The temperature dropped ten degrees in a matter of a half hour.

Second Group (Group 1)

The second group spent a lot of the session chatting with Crystal about how being a psychic medium works and she gladly shared several stories. At one point, her group started laughing so hard, I could hear them down on the first floor. It made me smile and pick up my game a bit too.  Her group started with a dowsing rod session:

• They weren’t talking to a child
• They are happy to be where they are
• There were three of them there
• None of them followed the group from downstairs

They switched rooms. The room they switched to was once Anne and Frank’s bedroom. Almost immediately, they discovered that the men in the group would get answers on the dowsing rods, but the women wouldn’t get anything. Crystal later learned how the room used to be open to the other room and was used as a billiards room during the American Legion days. That might have explained why they wouldn’t respond to the females in the group.

Dowsing Rods:

• One of them is sad
• Someone was there from the American Legion era
• They enjoyed those times at the American Legion

Once again, they didn’t receive any clear responses on the Spirit Box. Part of the reason for the lack of communication was the setting on the Spirit Box. They had it set to the fastest speed, which in my opinion, makes it more difficult to get clear answers.

Third Group (Group 3)

Crystal’s third group came to her after our break and were eager to get started. They stared out with a dowsing Rod Session and got far more responses than the other groups got.

Dowsing rod responses:

• They don’t like being there
• They are looking for help
• They lived there
• They worked there
• They were talking to a female
• She wants to cross over
• The woman was in the Culbertson family
• They were talking to Nellie
• She was looking for something
• She’s been in the Punishment Closet
• Her children were with her
• She’s happy – slow response

I gave Crystal a small cat ball with motion active lights inside of it. If anything bumped the ball, it would instantly light up. Traci and I both had the same balls for our groups and neither of ours lit up, but the one on the second floor did. The group spent a few minutes trying to get it to do it again, but it only happened the one time.

Dowsing rod session continued:

• They were also talking to a male
• He was there when the American Legion owned the building. Crystal said it was odd that they were communicating with Megan because in that room, only males were getting responses earlier
• He played pool and was good at it
• He liked to drink
• There isn’t something he wants to show them
• Hanna’s profession (she’s a mortician) doesn’t make them uncomfortable

They switched rooms and used the spirit box. This time the box was far more chatty.

Spirit Box responses:

What is your name? “Kevin”

Are we still talking to the same person? “No”

How many are in the room with us right now? “Seven”

Kevin, are you in the room? “I’m here”

Whose room is this? “Mine”

Are you a little boy? “You’re flunking”

How many of you are here with us right now? “Ten”

They moved to dowsing rods:

• Still talking to a woman
• She was invited into the room next door
• She was healthy when she was alive
• She won’t be happy when everyone leaves and the house is quiet
• There were no longer ten or more people with them
• Nellie wasn’t with them
• Kevin was with them
• Some of his family is there with him
• He likes to read books
• He was an only child

Third Floor

The third floor was probably used for a combination of functions. While it might have been used for servant housing, it was probably also used for the Culbertson children. He had more children than he had second floor bedrooms for and the third floor would have been convenient. We do believe the room Traci investigated was the head maid’s room, although she wouldn’t have had it all to herself. She probably would have shared it with other servants.

When the McDonalds owned the house, they blocked off the third floor and the staircase completely to help keep heating costs down.

First Group (Group 3)

As Traci started her first session on the third floor, she noticed something that every other group had issues with all night. The EMF (Electromagnetic) meters used to detect the presence of ghosts were flickering and wouldn’t stop. In previous investigations, the meters only reacted on occasion, remaining quiet for the majority of the event. It’s not necessarily an indicator of paranormal activity, but it was strange.

Traci does a great job of setting up her sessions. She explains how to use the dowsing rods and the questions they can ask. “Never ask them a question you wouldn’t ask your grandmother,” she told them. She then picked up the dowsing rods and demonstrated how to use them and started a baseline for them to build on. She established that they were talking to several females. No males were present. She then passed them on to the guests.

Dowsing Rods:

• There was a woman with them
• There was more than one woman with them
• There was a male (when Traci asked, it said no)
• He/she was married
• He/she never swam in the Ohio River – very fast yes response
• He/she worked in the house
• He/she was a cook
• He/she liked to cook – slow yes response
• He/she had children
• He/she had three children
• He/she children didn’t stay in the room with him
• He/she wasn’t a native of New Albany
• He/she didn’t travel there down the Ohio River
• He/she has been to a party in the house
• He/she went outside in the yard
• He/she had a boat
• He/she is afraid of swimming
• He/she had a bad experience in the water
• He/she enjoyed art
• He/she was good at art – slow yes response
• He/she liked to draw
• He/she liked to sing
• He/she liked to sing in church
• Other people liked hearing him/her sing
• He/she didn’t have a tenor voice
• He/she rode a horse
• It was fun riding a horse
• Played instruments

(Above) The Punishment Closet

During the session, she sent small groups out to the Punishment Closet with a pendulum. The Punishment Closet is somewhat of a mystery. They believe that Mrs. Culbertson had it built as a “time out room” for her husband’s rambunctious children. Her husband was probably away on business a lot and his children were prone to getting into trouble. One of them burnt down the wood shed at one point just to watch it burn.

Dowsing Rods:

• Doesn’t like the mansion
• When asked if they could leave, the rods wavered between yes and no. Traci explained to them that they could leave if they wanted to.
• Lived there during the flood
• That was his/her room
• It’s always hot up there (not true)
• Spent a lot of time in Louisville
• Hasn’t been to New York City

Traci then began the Estes Effect experiment. She first explained the process. The Spirit Box scans the radio stations at a rapid rate. Traci blindfolded herself and connected herself to the Spirit Box with noise cancelling headphones. The group asked questions to the ghosts in the house that Traci can’t hear. As soon as she hears something come through the box, she says it aloud. This cancels out any human error when hearing voices through the Spirit Box.

Q: Did you ever go to Derby?

Q: What was your favorite breakfast food?

Q: Did you have a favorite dress?

Traci: “Hey”

Traci: “GO. No problem”

Q: What color is your shirt?

Q: Do you like wearing shoes or going barefoot?

Traci: “I don’t know.”

Q: Do you like going outside?

Traci: “Kind of.”

Q: Do you like playing near the big tree?

Traci: “Hear right now.”

Q: Do you like going down by the river?

Traci: “I think so.”

Q: Do you like going down with your friends to the river?

Traci: “Roll over.”

Q: What is your favorite flower?

Traci: “Maybe.”

Q: Were you born in this month?

Traci: “Hey. I can’t. Well.”

Q: How many times were you married?

Traci: “Sort of.”

Q: Would you like something from us?

Traci: “Yeah.”

Q: What would you like?

Traci: “Take off.”

Q: Something is making noise in the chair. Chair ticked.

Traci: “The man.”

Q: Why are you here?

Traci: “Never.”

Q: Why can’t you leave?

Traci: “Think about it. Please do it.”

Traci: “Sinner”

Traci: “Joni”

Q: Who’s Joni?

Traci: “Here”

Q: Where’s Joni at now?

Q: What color is Joni’s hair?

Traci: “Yeah”

Q: How many people are in this building right now?

Traci: “Never mind”

Q: How many living people are in this room?

Traci: “Things”

Q: Do you like flowers?

Traci: “My God!”

Q: What is your favorite song?

Traci: “Stop!”

Q: Do you want us to stop asking questions?

Traci: “We’re done!”

Q: What is my name?

Traci: “Children!”

At that point, I came upstairs to check on them and they told me that the Spirit Box said my name. Did they see me coming up? It was an interesting experiment with some fairly profound responses. Traci said the voice that was coming through with the angry tone was male. It was apparent he was becoming annoyed with what he perceived as trivial questions.

Second group (Group 2)

The group settled in after being on the second floor for their first session. Traci explained everything they would be doing and then they started a dowsing rod session.

Dowsing Rods:

• There was a woman there
• There wasn’t a man there
• She was the head maid
• She was a servant
• The Culbertsons treated her well
• She liked living on the third floor
• She showered up there. This was a good question because there isn’t currently a bathroom on the third floor. One of the volunteers said there used to be a bathroom up there but was turned into a bedroom later.
• Someone who came back from the Punishment Closet asked if there a little boy in the Punishment Closet with her. It responded with yes.
• He was the little boy who burned down the wood shed. (Probably not true since Samuel died as an old man)
• Liked being close to the river
• Went to the stores in town
• They think it’s fun when they have the haunted house event in the Carriage House
• Someone asked if she was going to get the promotion she was testing for. The dowsing rods said “no.”
• They had pretty flowers at the mansion
• She provided the flowers for the mansion

Traci noted that the K2 meters were reacting near the big mirror

She then started the Estes Effect.

 

Q: What’s your name

Traci: “Mama” (she said it sounded like a child)

Traci: “What’s that?”

Q: How many children do you have?

Traci: “Mama” (child’s voice)

Q: Do you have any boys

Q: Are your children here

Q: Do you want your mama?

Q: How old are you?

Q: Are you Cordelia? (rapid fire questions)

Traci: “Yes” (probably in response to the question about wanting her mama)

Traci: “I know”

Q: Were you outside in the chair?

Traci: “I think so”

Traci: “floozie” (this word wasn’t popular until the 1920’s)

Q: Did you punish your boys?

Traci: “Mama” (child’s voice)

Q: Are you calling for mama

Traci: “He can’t be quiet.”

Q: Is that why you punish him?

Q: Is there more than one person here?

Traci: “Who’s gone? I don’t know?”

Q: Who’s the boy

Traci: “You’ll make it.”

Q: Do you get mad at your boys?

Traci: “Come with me?”

Q: Where to?

Traci: “Chicago”

Q: Why Chicago?

Traci: “Attention”

Q: Attention to what?

Traci: “Black”

Q: What year is it?

Traci: “Tonight”

Q: What happens tonight?

Traci: “The book”

Q: What book?

Q: What color shirt am I wearing?

Traci: “I don’t know.”

Q: Are you happy?

Traci: “Oh well”

Q: Are we missing the point

Traci: “I know what you done”

Q: Did somebody do something wrong?

Traci: “Where’s that?”

Traci: “Tombstone”

Q: Is there something you want to tell us.

Traci: “I should go”

Q: Why do you want to leave

Traci: “What?”

Q: It’s okay to talk to us

Traci: “No problem”

Traci: “Julie”

Traci: “Child’s here.”

Traci: “Any more”

Traci: “What happened?”

Q: Do you know Julie?

Q: What about Julie?

Traci: “What?”

Q: Who is Julie?

Traci: “Motorcycle”

Q: Are you always in the house?

Traci: “Focus”

Q: Focus on what?

Traci: “Eric”

Q: Who is Eric?

Traci: “Investigate them.”

Q: Investigate Eric and Julie? (one member in the group had family members by the same names, which concerned her)

Traci: “Thank you”

Traci: “This kid”

Q: One of your kids?

Q: Did you have a favorite kid?

Traci: “Anything. Back to it”

Q: Did you live in the house?

Q: Do you like people coming in to talk to you?

Traci: “No. No.” (male voice)

Traci: “I don’t” (male voice)

Q: We have enjoyed talking with you but you’re free to leave

Traci: “Maybe. We’ll talk” (male voice)

Traci: “It’s up” (male voice)

Q: What’s up?
Traci: “Probably” (male voice)

Traci then came out of the session and removed her headphones.

She explained some of the history regarding the Culbertson family. She said the “floozy” comment might have been in reference to Blanche Culbertson. Blanche was Mr. Culbertson’s youngest daughter. She became known as “Scandalous Blanche” after she refused to marry the man her father wanted to marry. Instead, she married the man she loved, someone who was known to be a scoundrel. Her father wrote her out of his will, but she later took it to court and won her fair portion of his estate. Later in her life (after her divorce from the scoundrel) she went to New York City and was a huge influence on the women’s movement.  Blanche is one of our favorite characters in the house.

Third Group – Group 1

Traci’s last group would prove to experience the most activity.  They started off the session by taking a baseline on the dowsing rods.

• There were several women in the room
• There weren’t any males there
• There was a child there

She then handed off the rods.

• She wasn’t a servant
• She wasn’t married to anyone who belonged to the house
• She wasn’t a guest of the house
• She was a little girl
• Her mother is with her
• She has a little brother
• She’s happy
• Her name isn’t Mary Julia
• Her mother’s name isn’t Cornelia
• Her mother’s name isn’t Eliza
• Her last name wasn’t McDonald
• She didn’t live in the house

The chair began ticking even though it hadn’t been touched in a while. Traci explained to the group to pay attention to that. Sometimes the ghosts use that for communication.

Dowsing rods continued:

• Someone is there because they’re attached to a piece of furniture
• She’s from Indiana
• She doesn’t know the girl they met in the Punishment Closet
• She’s okay with them being there

Traci then moved on to the Estes Method.

Q: Have you been here for a long time?

Traci: “Really?”

Q: Are you tired?

Q: Do you like this room?

Traci: “Hello”

Q: Hi

Traci: “Robert”

Q: Hi Robert

Traci: “Friend. Partner”

Traci: “Apple”

Q: How old are you?

Traci: “Recording?”

Q: Yes, we’re recording this session.

Q: Do you live here?

Q: How old are you Robert?

Q: Is your mother here? (rapid fire questions, which always seem to irritate them)

Traci: “You’re stupid.” (Male voice)

Q: That wasn’t nice.

Q: Is that the way you usually talk?

Traci: “Go!” (Male voice)

Traci: “Weird”

Q: How many of us are in this room?

Q: Do you like to play with balls?

Traci: “John. Hello.”

Q: Are you a little boy?

Traci: “I wasn’t sure”

Q: Are you and adult?

Traci: “I’m here. Government.”

Q: Do you work for the veterans

Traci: “Peace”

Q: Did you serve in a war?

Were you part of the American Legion?

Traci: “In time”

Traci: “I wanted to try. I can’t”

Traci: “fifty, a hundred.”

Q: Can you move the ball?

Traci: “It’s going to stay”

Traci: “got you”

Q: Did your father fight in the war?

Traci: “Me too”

Was it WW2?

Traci: “Evil”

Q: Did you fight in Germany?

Q: Did you fly in planes?

Q: Were you in Normandy? Rapid fire questions

Q: Do you have kids, Robert?

Q: Did you work in the stables?

Q: Is there a mother and daughter in here still? Rapid fire questions continuing

Traci: “Resort. Help.”

Q: Do you need help?

Q: Were you wounded in the war?

Traci: “Yeah. Get me.”

Q: Where were you wounded?

Q: Did you lose a leg?

Q: Robert, are you looking for the light? Can you find the light?

Traci: “yes”

Q: Do you need help finding it?

Traci: “My wife”

Traci: “The problem.”

Q: Is your wife sick?

Q: How many people are in this room?

Traci: “Music”

Q: Did you have a daughter?

Traci: “I like it.”

Traci: “There he is.”

Q: Was it the music in the carriage house?

Traci: “Help me.”

Q: Are you stuck, Robert?

Q: Do you like this window?

Traci: “This?”

Q: Do you like the third floor?

Traci: “Taken”

Q: Is this room taken?

Q: Were you a caretaker here?

Traci: “Raindrop. Please.”

Q: Did you work here in the sixties? Or the seventies?
Traci: “Hi”

Q: Hi

Q: Do you want to talk with us?

Traci: “Who is it?”

Q: This is Alicia.

“Traci: This is William.”

“What?”

Q: William Culbertson?
Traci: “what do you see?”

Q: I don’t see anything. You wanna show me something?

“Traci: William”

Q: Can you give us a sign please?”

Traci: “More.”

Q: Do you also go by Bill?

Traci: “My name is William”

Q: What is your last name?

Traci: “Holding everything.”

Q: Did you buy this house?

Q: Were you close to the train?

Traci: “Hey, I’m here”

Q: Are you still William?

Traci: “never stop. Stop it.”

Q: Are you getting tired, William?

Traci: “Mad”

Q: Just mad?

Q: Did you drink, William?

Q: Were you a cigar smoker?

Traci: “Well.

Traci: “From”

Mary, a volunteer, explained that there were several Williams. There was also a William Arthur. According to Jessica, William Arthur went by Will sometimes. He was the eldest Culbertson son who gained a drinking problem later in life. His wife’s name was Olive and she had infidelity problems. They were constantly in debt and his father had to bail them out repetitively. They lost their daughter as a young girl. When Will died, Olive was cut out of the will. They stated that they’d helped her enough when her husband was alive and they wouldn’t help her any longer.

During past investigations, we’ve felt there is a lost child up on the third floor. She might have belonged to a servant. We’ve tried to help her many times, but she rejects the assistance.

As the night came to a close, we gathered together in the formal dining room and had a group discussion about the night. The majority of the guests felt that the first floor was the most active. As Jessica pointed out, guests would have been received in the informal parlor on the first floor, which was where we got the most responses.

The mansion wasn’t as active as we’ve seen it in the past, but it was still active enough to keep us intrigued. Every time we visit, we learn something new about the ghosts who reside there.

(Above) my team: (L-R) me, Traci Hoehn, Crystal Folz, Rich Schlegelmilch, Meagan Patterson

Thank you to everyone who attended and thank you to the Culbertson Mansion for hosting our event. Special thanks to my team for all their hard work!